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#11
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Joined APC: Feb 2005
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This place amazes me sometimes....We have a ton of qualed ETOPS guys here but they were in the wrong squadron to help re invent the wheel the TX way. They have CKA who have never flown ETOPS before teaching other CKA how to do it one or two flights. We need to have RQ pilots who did this day in and day out for years to help. Just one humble civilians opinion...
PS...Yes I did volunteer and so did several other OAK pilots with serious over water time....
PSS... Clutch I can see we used to drive some of the same metal years ago...SAT
PS...Yes I did volunteer and so did several other OAK pilots with serious over water time....
PSS... Clutch I can see we used to drive some of the same metal years ago...SAT
The B737 is NOT a great ETOPS airplane, but you go with what you got.
As far as CKAs doing the checking? That’s the seniority system. CKAs are captains that have applied to be CKAs. There are numerous experienced FOs and a few CAs that can do it, but they don’t want to commute or live in California. Again, you go with what you’ve got.
There seems to be a lot of “tech-cedure” circulating as well. All you need to know or procedures to follow are in the IFOM. Don’t make it hard.
#12
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Joined APC: May 2018
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I completely agree with Halin - the dudes that set-up our etops program did not come from "the squadron", and imo - they got it right. I've been around almost 3 decades and can attest firsthand to some of the stupid things we've done. This isn't one of them. The training was great and the several crossings I've done were, procedurally very clean and straightforward.
It amazes me how many mainline aircraft (UA/DL) are out there making HF position reports still.
It amazes me how many mainline aircraft (UA/DL) are out there making HF position reports still.
#13
I completely agree with Halin - the dudes that set-up our etops program did not come from "the squadron", and imo - they got it right. I've been around almost 3 decades and can attest firsthand to some of the stupid things we've done. This isn't one of them. The training was great and the several crossings I've done were, procedurally very clean and straightforward.
It amazes me how many mainline aircraft (UA/DL) are out there making HF position reports still.
It amazes me how many mainline aircraft (UA/DL) are out there making HF position reports still.
I’m guessing that it was because they were having CPDLC problems.
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
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I can’t speak to the 737 “Guppy” fleet, but that was the deal with our 757-300’s. It apparently sent out some sort of nuisance message to ATC if we attempted the VHF logon going to Hawaii.
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
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This place amazes me sometimes....We have a ton of qualed ETOPS guys here but they were in the wrong squadron to help re invent the wheel the TX way. They have CKA who have never flown ETOPS before teaching other CKA how to do it one or two flights. We need to have RQ pilots who did this day in and day out for years to help. Just one humble civilians opinion...
PS...Yes I did volunteer and so did several other OAK pilots with serious over water time....
PSS... Clutch I can see we used to drive some of the same metal years ago...SAT
PS...Yes I did volunteer and so did several other OAK pilots with serious over water time....
PSS... Clutch I can see we used to drive some of the same metal years ago...SAT
"Oahu Center.... hello?"
"Oahu Center, how do you read?"
"They're not responding. Try it on HF."
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