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Old 05-14-2019, 08:20 PM
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The reason STL is so popular as a base rumor is that MDW is ****ed for growth. We are taking over STL. It’s a MDW reliever.
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Old 05-15-2019, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sMFer
SMF for sure is what I’ve been told.

*I started this rumor.


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I 2nd your rumor
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STL is too close to MDW.::I think STL would make sense if we had bigger equipment that we couldn’t force into mdw somehow lol
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The Network Planning guy came to recurrent training this week to answer questions. He mentioned every time a new base is considered the contending cities are ranked and scored based on a series of operational parameters and requirements.

When this was done last, the winning city was MCI, followed by LAX and STL third. Due to ETOPS operations, LAX had to be chosen among the three, despite MCI scoring ahead.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:32 AM
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I don’t get MCI. We just don’t do much there compared to other focus cities. Maybe if/when the new terminal gets built there’ll be expansion but I don’t see it.

DAL - HOU is 208 nm
MDW - STL is 218 nm

I don’t get why people say STL is too close to MDW to be a base when DAL/HOU are closer. We do more flights out of STL than we did in LAS/DEN when those two became bases.
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
I don’t get MCI. We just don’t do much there compared to other focus cities. Maybe if/when the new terminal gets built there’ll be expansion but I don’t see it.

DAL - HOU is 208 nm
MDW - STL is 218 nm

I don’t get why people say STL is too close to MDW to be a base when DAL/HOU are closer. We do more flights out of STL than we did in LAS/DEN when those two became bases.
Because besides it’s geographic location STL doesn’t offer much. MDW
Is both a good connecting spot through the Midwest as well as being in Chicago, a city a lot of people actually go to. That’s what network planning guy told us
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STL has very little OE traffic. DAL, HOU, and MDW have a lot.

STL is a connector hub.
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SAN has more flights per day than STL now.
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:16 AM
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Just my opinion, but if we are going to do inter island right, we need to have a domicile in Hawaii. PHNL would be my guess....
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PropPiedmont
SAN has more flights per day than STL now.


I would like to see the source on that. Not saying it isn’t possible. It just sounds far fetched. SAN is gate and runway constrained and is located in the corner pocket of CONUS. It has a lot of cool things like a rabidly loyal customer base of OE traffic and great weather, but it sucks for connections because our gates are currently divided between three separate security screens. It will never be a traditional base.

STL has more gates, more runways, and a huge growth potential. All that and it is located in a prime spot for connections (we don’t do hub and spoke, though).

I don’t think we will see a new crew base open up for years, if ever.
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