SWA or JetBlue
04-17-2019, 06:18 AM
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Also, with the Europe flying announcement in 2021, wouldn’t be surprised to see a different pay scale negotiated for A321LR, probably 757/767ish. There may even be an outside section 6 pay scale for A321LR/ETOPS, I.E. sooner??? It’s not currently addressed in the contract...Going to be very interesting to see how this is handled by ALPA, and it will be tough for the company to argue otherwise with the Trans Atlantic flying. So there may be a “pseudo-wide body like” pay scale upside potential at B6 that people aren’t considered vs WN.
04-17-2019, 06:21 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvZF_wtvy5Q
"SWA is gonna get you... SWA will take you away ... SWA is gonna save yaaaa ... save ya from the boring daaaays!"
Jokes apart ... a couple of years ago we did not have any doubt ... and if we are having this conversation is because JB has done something good ...
"SWA is gonna get you... SWA will take you away ... SWA is gonna save yaaaa ... save ya from the boring daaaays!"
Jokes apart ... a couple of years ago we did not have any doubt ... and if we are having this conversation is because JB has done something good ...
04-17-2019, 07:06 AM
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It's funny ... I know a couple of FLL guys/gals who quit SWA for JB ... and they are happy ... on the left seat!
Interline agreement are better at JB, SWA cannot offer business class so their pilots cannot jump in business on any other carrier.
23+ year seniority and you are still around ... retire and enjoy your grandkids! Lol
Interline agreement are better at JB, SWA cannot offer business class so their pilots cannot jump in business on any other carrier.
23+ year seniority and you are still around ... retire and enjoy your grandkids! Lol
LOL... Yeah, I'll get right on that.
It's gonna be fun totaling up my master logbook for the JB interview. Do you think that one entry with 16k hours of various 737 time would be OK?
Retire? You're funny......
Did you miss that I've worked for WN for the last few decades, where, apparently, retirement (not to mention LTD etc) was some kind of fantasy world that only other, less worthy pilot groups, live in.
04-17-2019, 04:03 PM
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To the OP,
Keep in mind as well that your current comparison between them is based on JB’s NEW recently passed TA and SW’s old contract that expires next year. It will obviously take some time to get a new contract at SW, but don’t forget that you are comparing a brand new contract from JB that will last X years plus negotiation time vs an old contract that’s almost expired and going for negotiation for improvements next year.
No crystal ball here, just my .2 cents.
Keep in mind as well that your current comparison between them is based on JB’s NEW recently passed TA and SW’s old contract that expires next year. It will obviously take some time to get a new contract at SW, but don’t forget that you are comparing a brand new contract from JB that will last X years plus negotiation time vs an old contract that’s almost expired and going for negotiation for improvements next year.
No crystal ball here, just my .2 cents.
04-17-2019, 05:41 PM
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To the OP,
Keep in mind as well that your current comparison between them is based on JB’s NEW recently passed TA and SW’s old contract that expires next year. It will obviously take some time to get a new contract at SW, but don’t forget that you are comparing a brand new contract from JB that will last X years plus negotiation time vs an old contract that’s almost expired and going for negotiation for improvements next year.
No crystal ball here, just my .2 cents.
Keep in mind as well that your current comparison between them is based on JB’s NEW recently passed TA and SW’s old contract that expires next year. It will obviously take some time to get a new contract at SW, but don’t forget that you are comparing a brand new contract from JB that will last X years plus negotiation time vs an old contract that’s almost expired and going for negotiation for improvements next year.
No crystal ball here, just my .2 cents.
04-17-2019, 05:53 PM
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Money/retirement ask I would guess would be in line with whatever Delta gets out of it’s current negotiation.
04-17-2019, 06:26 PM
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To the OP,
Keep in mind as well that your current comparison between them is based on JB’s NEW recently passed TA and SW’s old contract that expires next year. It will obviously take some time to get a new contract at SW, but don’t forget that you are comparing a brand new contract from JB that will last X years plus negotiation time vs an old contract that’s almost expired and going for negotiation for improvements next year.
No crystal ball here, just my .2 cents.
Keep in mind as well that your current comparison between them is based on JB’s NEW recently passed TA and SW’s old contract that expires next year. It will obviously take some time to get a new contract at SW, but don’t forget that you are comparing a brand new contract from JB that will last X years plus negotiation time vs an old contract that’s almost expired and going for negotiation for improvements next year.
No crystal ball here, just my .2 cents.
04-17-2019, 06:32 PM
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Respectfully disagree, B6 already has many A321s on property; we’re not talking about A321, we’re talking about an A321LR, “Long Range” version that will be ETOPS certified for Trans-Atlantic service, my guess is, very much like legacy 757 contract comparison.
04-17-2019, 07:33 PM
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There’s a $13/hr night override that will pay out on many of the trans Atlantic legs (because they will touch the 0100-0500 base local time window, triggering the override for the entire leg), plus the intl override of course ($6/hr CA / $5/hr FO). But neither of these overrides put the A321LR rate where it needs to be.
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