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Old 05-10-2019, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokey23
Do you like redeyes?


.....YES----> Jetblue

.....NO-----> SWA
One of the remaining areas of growth for SWA is redeyes, so if you don’t think it will happen sooner rather than later then hmmmmmm...
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Old 05-10-2019, 03:55 PM
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Yes! And THIS is what I want to see in 2020, not some arbitrary 108 TFP average that they say the pilot group flies. No! Apples to apples!


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Yep. Pay needs to be equal to Delta, United, etc for same equipment. Especially with Premium not being readily available.
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Old 05-10-2019, 05:54 PM
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Hell we are almost there already. Last month every trip to the overnight got in well past midnight.

From newhire to fourth year I’ve never gone below 100 TFP. Of course, I trade and all that stuff, but for a better trip.

I drive two hours to work so I pretty much fly my line. Three on four off and it pays 106 so far.
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Hell we are almost there already. Last month every trip to the overnight got in well past midnight.
I'd rather fly a straight up red-eye then some of our ugly east coast AMs. What's worse, staying up all night or trying to wake up at 3am body clock time?
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Yes! And THIS is what I want to see in 2020, not some arbitrary 108 TFP average that they say the pilot group flies. No! Apples to apples!


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Amen... Don't hold your breath though..... That 108 nonsense has been going on for a LONG time.
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Old 05-11-2019, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Yep. Pay needs to be equal to Delta, United, etc for same equipment. Especially with Premium not being readily available.
Pay for similar equipment needs to be greater to offer a career with similar lifetime earnings and to make up for the lack of options in regard to type of flying and schedules. People change. Flexibility has value.
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Old 05-11-2019, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Proximity
I'd rather fly a straight up red-eye then some of our ugly east coast AMs. What's worse, staying up all night or trying to wake up at 3am body clock time?
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Old 05-11-2019, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Xjrstreetcar
Pay for similar equipment needs to be greater to offer a career with similar lifetime earnings and to make up for the lack of options in regard to type of flying and schedules. People change. Flexibility has value.
I never understood this mentality and quite frankly if I was the company I’d probably laugh out loud if my pilots asked for compensation for the B737 to be greater than our peers at the legacies just because we didn’t have the widebody option at SWA.
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Old 05-11-2019, 06:04 AM
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I never understood this mentality and quite frankly if I was the company I’d probably laugh out loud if my pilots asked for compensation for the B737 to be greater than our peers at the legacies just because we didn’t have the widebody option at SWA.
+1. pilots crack me up.
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Originally Posted by Xjrstreetcar
Pay for similar equipment needs to be greater to offer a career with similar lifetime earnings and to make up for the lack of options in regard to type of flying and schedules. People change. Flexibility has value.
We don’t offer airplane flexibility. We offer the ability to bounce around the system and work wherever and whenever you want on the same plane. If that’s not your cup of tea....there’s other airlines with flexibility hiring.

I won’t spend negotiating capital on something that doesn’t make sense. Eventually we may offer another type....but you can’t come work here and demand more $ because your buddy can fly a 757 and you can’t.
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