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Old 02-24-2019, 12:09 PM
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I would love to have geometric path. However, I was under the impression the idle path was for fuel savings. I'm not enough of a whiz and too lazy to figure it out but idle descents at the last possible second would seem to be more fuel efficient, just not as easy to work with for us and worse for the pax. SWA could switch the logic anytime they want to I assume. The just choose not to.
If you could chop and drop from cruise altitude it would be better, but with the ODP arrivals that has changed. Basically what we do is dive-and-drive step-downs which are less efficient than a constant angle constant speed descent at an econ airspeed.

The studies have been done and geometric path is the most efficient. That is why most airlines do them.
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Old 02-24-2019, 08:52 PM
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Trust me I'm all for it. Let me make some calls!
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:20 PM
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Somebody mentioned that SWA received ETOPS certification...
I’m on the LAX list, any traction to that?

I’ll be looking for an announcement.
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Old 02-25-2019, 12:43 AM
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Somebody mentioned that SWA received ETOPS certification...
I’m on the LAX list, any traction to that?

I’ll be looking for an announcement.
Probably something announced tomorrow (Monday).
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Old 02-25-2019, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WestCoastHercs
Somebody mentioned that SWA received ETOPS certification...
I’m on the LAX list, any traction to that?

I’ll be looking for an announcement.

The last company rally is today in Dallas...my money is the certification and schedule will be announced there. Our first vacancy bid that includes OAK-ETOPS and LAX closes in under 2 hours. Stay tuned.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:20 PM
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Bid results are out.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:25 PM
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Wow... OAK ETOPS went way senior!

This is gonna be rather interesting....
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Wow... OAK ETOPS went way senior!

This is gonna be rather interesting....
Well what we've learned is that the bottom half of the Oakland EBG likely don't understand contingency vacancy bidding and that there will be ETOPS reserve lines that will go to the bottom EBG pilots. The bottom OAK EGB Captain would be about 50% overall in OAK if they'd stayed domestic. That's a huge hit in QQL to fly a couple HI flights.
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Wow... OAK ETOPS went way senior!

This is gonna be rather interesting....


Not surprising in the first couple of months. If you were based in Oakland on purpose and drove to work, there is zero reason not to be part of the EBG. I figured it would go way senior in the Oakland base for the first couple of bids at least.
By sitting out, you are eliminating yourself from a good portion of the flying in the base and gaining nothing.
By participating, you are subject to some great trips and some opportunities to get paid training pulls in the first year or so as this thing ramps up and guys are getting qual'd.
If it gets painful or you just don’t want to do the flying anymore because you are sick of the beer at Duke's, you can just bid a regular line and still be part of the EBG or just give away your ETOPS flying and pick up regular trips.
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If it gets painful or you just don’t want to do the flying anymore because you are sick of the beer at Duke's, you can just bid a regular line and still be part of the EBG or just give away your ETOPS flying and pick up regular trips.
If you're drinking beer at Duke's, you're doing it wrong. Go get a mai tai, ya haole.
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