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Old 01-29-2019, 08:21 AM
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There will always be the FOs for life also that have no plans of ever upgrading for whatever reason (age, qol, another business, health, etc.). I wonder if we have any (or how many) below 60 that could upgrade but are concerned about holding a First Class...

There’s no way to know how many are permanent right-seaters, but I’m sure there are a few.
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:09 PM
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One reason to upgrade when able is medical. If you go out on medical it’s better to be on the left seat payscale.

Still, commuting sucks.
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Old 02-01-2019, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by saab2000
I’m an early 2017 hire. I do predict upgrades will come down below ten years. Glad to see significant upgrades planned for 2019.

I’ve still got LAX and OAK ETOPS captain slots at the top of my bid sheet. If, shockingly, it were to happen sooner rather than later I would move out there.

That said, I’d guess there will be LAS and PHX F/Os who will get this earlier because those commutes aren’t that tough I’d guess.

But I’ll take first available even if it’s flying odd schedules to Hawaii.
What is the PHX FO movement and lifestyle like? Any FO's based in PHX out there? I am not as concerned with upgrading as I am with QOL. What can I expect the 1st couple years as an FO there?
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:17 AM
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What is the PHX FO movement and lifestyle like? Any FO's based in PHX out there? I am not as concerned with upgrading as I am with QOL. What can I expect the 1st couple years as an FO there?
Spring 2017 hire here. PHX based. About 120 folks below me, around 420 FO’s total. PHX culture is OK, lots of good guys here. The pilot lounge has a “public library” feel to it. Everyone keeps to themselves and it very quiet. MDW was more like the old sitcom Cheers, “ Hey Norm”.
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:48 AM
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In PHX, you don’t speak unless spoken to soldier. Now make sure you shine up those shoes before going back up into the Terminal. Dismissed.
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Old 02-01-2019, 09:20 AM
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In PHX, you don’t speak unless spoken to soldier. Now make sure you shine up those shoes before going back up into the Terminal. Dismissed.

When they say in the briefing, “if you see anything you don’t like, speak up.” Don’t believe it. You’ll get anonymous texts from their squadron mates.


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Old 02-01-2019, 10:52 AM
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Interesting. Haven’t heard that one before.
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Old 02-02-2019, 05:05 AM
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Summer 17 guy here in PHX. movement was pretty quick with all the hiring. Off reserve within a couple months. I bounce between regular and blank lines now. That will vary wildly with hiring, the LA base, etc I assume. Haven’t flown with any jerks yet. Don’t know why you’d want to hang out in the lounge if not commuting, but everyone’s been as friendly and talkative as they were in OAK and LAS.
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Old 02-05-2019, 04:12 PM
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How soon can a new FO hold PHX? How many days month are you getting called into fly on reserve as a new FO? Once you hold a line how many days a month are you away sleeping in a hotel? What are the trips like out of PHX?

I know there are a lot of variables but any insight is appreciated.
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Old 02-05-2019, 04:29 PM
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How soon can a new FO hold PHX? How many days month are you getting called into fly on reserve as a new FO? Once you hold a line how many days a month are you away sleeping in a hotel? What are the trips like out of PHX?

I know there are a lot of variables but any insight is appreciated.
3 months give or take.... Reserves aren’t being fully utilized currently. If you like you can trade reserve for trips with lineholders and/or just trade your reserve away. Minimum days off is 15 on Reserve with the average being 17 days as a Lineholder. No international out of PHX. Welcome Aboard...
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