Southwest Hiring 2019
11-05-2018, 03:58 PM
#91
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And yeah, it’s embarrassing as the FO to watch the captain wield “his authority” to a commuter who is almost in tears trying to get home to his wife and kids. Said commuter came up and asked for a ride. Captain denied him citing safety of flight due to his height. Both Jumpseaters came up and begged captain, even demonstrating that second jumpseater could put his legs to the side and not impede seat. Captain made up some excuse about fed telling him he cannot have a second jump due to his height. I just said “I’m sorry about this” and shrugged my shoulders.
11-06-2018, 03:13 PM
#92
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All hearsay to me, but I’ve flown with an OAK CKAM a few times who’s deep in the ETOPS program. According to him, the state of Hawaii came to us and asked us to fly inter island as they’re not fond of Hawaiian “taking advantage of the residents”. I can believe it. He also stated a potential plan of ferrying out a small fleet of 700 NG’s and having them dedicated to that.
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I would think a guy deep in the ETOPS program would know that a 737-800 with 175 passengers and bags might find it a little difficult to depart LIH and OGG with ETOPS fuel. Might need to make a stop on an island with a longer runway... some may call that inter-island. I call it a technical stop.
Before you say Alaska does it remember, they carry people, not cattle. 159 pax and bags weigh a lot less. Also all of Alaska's ETOPS aircraft have the Short Field Performance package. SWA only has that on the MAX, since it now comes standard.
11-06-2018, 03:34 PM
#93
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Aloha did that. They were so successful they had to shut the airline down to devote more time to spending all the money.
I would think a guy deep in the ETOPS program would know that a 737-800 with 175 passengers and bags might find it a little difficult to depart LIH and OGG with ETOPS fuel. Might need to make a stop on an island with a longer runway... some may call that inter-island. I call it a technical stop.
Before you say Alaska does it remember, they carry people, not cattle. 159 pax and bags weigh a lot less. Also all of Alaska's ETOPS aircraft have the Short Field Performance package. SWA only has that on the MAX, since it now comes standard.
I would think a guy deep in the ETOPS program would know that a 737-800 with 175 passengers and bags might find it a little difficult to depart LIH and OGG with ETOPS fuel. Might need to make a stop on an island with a longer runway... some may call that inter-island. I call it a technical stop.
Before you say Alaska does it remember, they carry people, not cattle. 159 pax and bags weigh a lot less. Also all of Alaska's ETOPS aircraft have the Short Field Performance package. SWA only has that on the MAX, since it now comes standard.
11-06-2018, 04:16 PM
#94
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11-06-2018, 04:29 PM
#95
weekends off? Nope...
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11-06-2018, 04:46 PM
#96
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Uh no...
Aloha never flew 700’s interisland - they flew 200’s, and what did them in was a combination of bad management, unfair competition (Mesa’s go!), lack of ASM’s and fuel prices.
11-06-2018, 05:41 PM
#97
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Aloha did that. They were so successful they had to shut the airline down to devote more time to spending all the money.
I would think a guy deep in the ETOPS program would know that a 737-800 with 175 passengers and bags might find it a little difficult to depart LIH and OGG with ETOPS fuel. Might need to make a stop on an island with a longer runway... some may call that inter-island. I call it a technical stop.
Before you say Alaska does it remember, they carry people, not cattle. 159 pax and bags weigh a lot less. Also all of Alaska's ETOPS aircraft have the Short Field Performance package. SWA only has that on the MAX, since it now comes standard.
I would think a guy deep in the ETOPS program would know that a 737-800 with 175 passengers and bags might find it a little difficult to depart LIH and OGG with ETOPS fuel. Might need to make a stop on an island with a longer runway... some may call that inter-island. I call it a technical stop.
Before you say Alaska does it remember, they carry people, not cattle. 159 pax and bags weigh a lot less. Also all of Alaska's ETOPS aircraft have the Short Field Performance package. SWA only has that on the MAX, since it now comes standard.
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11-06-2018, 05:45 PM
#98
weekends off? Nope...
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I think they’re totally winging it and haven’t run a single number...
11-06-2018, 05:59 PM
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