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Old 10-11-2018, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Vacation dropping after PBS would be like allowing SWA to line bid, then go through a week of ELITT/swaps and then applying your vacation drop.

Even SWA management wouldn't go for that, just like no management is going to allow PBS to run and then drop vacation on top to drop trips. That's worse than line bidding alone for mgmt.

Most of the large pilot groups on PBS didn't "negotiate" it, it came as a package of pay cuts and work rules that were jammed down the union's throat in front of a BK judge.
If you think Delta or UAL at least "gave away" line bidding then you don't know your history and/or weren't paying attention.
Amen brother. I don't even know why we're still discussing this nonsense.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Tenacvols
What’s DBMIVN?
“Don’t blame me, I voted no”. It’s kind of like “I told you so”, but without proof.
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“Don’t blame me, I voted no”. It’s kind of like “I told you so”, but without proof.
The proof is in the concessions.......
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Old 10-11-2018, 02:08 PM
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PBS with paid conflicts would be the ultimate. I can’t even imagine how awesome that would be once you got relatively senior.
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
PBS with paid conflicts would be the ultimate. I can’t even imagine how awesome that would be once you got relatively senior.
PBS at SW and the word awesome will be mutually exclusive. Count on it.
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Old 10-11-2018, 03:40 PM
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No on PBS.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:44 PM
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Plus, with PBS you can really jack up a month, lol. Back to back trips, single days off, min days off, etc. NO PBS!
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Old 10-12-2018, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyward
Plus, with PBS you can really jack up a month, lol. Back to back trips, single days off, min days off, etc. NO PBS!
At my last gig never experienced anything like this. All depends what the pilot group and management agreed to. Only way you got less than 2 days off is if you choose to do so. Min days, never saw that. In fact got more days off than line bidding. Again it all comes down to the language!
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Originally Posted by Riverside
At my last gig never experienced anything like this. All depends what the pilot group and management agreed to. Only way you got less than 2 days off is if you choose to do so. Min days, never saw that. In fact got more days off than line bidding. Again it all comes down to the language!
I sure experienced it at my last gig. I agree that the rules dictate the outcome, but Line bidding at SW is about as consistent and as predictable as a “normal” life can be as an airline pilot, imo. Even as a new guy I’m awarded 3on/4off, but then I can modify it if I choose. My schedule was all over the place with PBS with no form of consistancy or repetition. Hopefully, this is just a moot conversation anyway and we don’t try to “fix” our unbroken system...
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Originally Posted by Skyward
Hopefully, this is just a moot conversation anyway and we don’t try to “fix” our unbroken system...
Yup..... Hopefully you're right, but this topic comes up pretty regularly, and while most folks are 100% against it, there are always a few folks, who, for whatever reason, seem to think PBS wouldn't be a disaster here.

All it takes is a few squeaky wheels who have the ear of a BOD member, and the next thing we know, we're voting YES! on it.
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