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Old 10-17-2018, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Peacock
The good news is for FO’s in base on reserve. So far this month I’ve had nine days of reserve and flew one easy two day. I have to go back over a month for my last flight before that. Last month I flew one three day, and a sim since I’m in Dallas.

I’m too junior to get premium anyway, so if I want high tfp, I just bid straight on occasional easy trips on my off days. It’s not hard at all to get 120-140 tfp only actually flying 6-10 days. A couple months ago I did 138tfp on eight days of flying, only three nights away.
Depends on base, I’ve flown every week for the last 3. Before that I had two weeks off. Mdw.
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Old 10-17-2018, 02:14 PM
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I’m sure it does. I got forced into a Weds-Fri AM line next month because of Thanksgiving.

Once I got senior enough to bid weekday or mostly weekday PM reserve, there was no going back.
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Old 10-17-2018, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Open time is dry on the captain side because of two things.
1. It’s October.
2. Captain open time behavior is way different than FOs. They bid straight earlier and there are a lot more captains who are in the 150+ a month club. Someone told me PHX CA elitt net zero is +25 and MCO is +10. That’s unheard of on the FO side.

The balance of the force is way out of whack (pun intended) right now. We are way over staffed on FOs. Take a look at the weekend reserve call out lists and you will see it.
I don’t disagree with any of that but the trip quality has also gone to $7it. I’ve never seen TTGA filled with so many unproductive trips.
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Old 10-17-2018, 03:31 PM
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I don’t disagree with any of that but the trip quality has also gone to $7it. I’ve never seen TTGA filled with so many unproductive trips.


Yep. Agreed. It sucks for everyone.
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Old 10-17-2018, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
I don’t disagree with any of that but the trip quality has also gone to $7it. I’ve never seen TTGA filled with so many unproductive trips.


TTGA has something in it?
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Old 10-17-2018, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Stitches
Another issue is our training requirements have almost doubled from the past few years and we haven’t even started etops training yet. Several pilots I fly with have mentioned that they cut back their flying with the latest contract. Also, the company can see future bookings so they have an early look at demand.
I'm hoping this is it. I don't think the company intends to kill the premium marketplace, if so they'd upgrade more and kill premium on the captain side also. I think they looked at their training capacity and their upcoming requirements and figured they'd better get people onboard.

Next year we get 30 airplanes, which accounts for 400 pilots. Approx 110 retirements, plus early outs. Recurrent training will be a day longer next year, plus some pilots will go to ETOPS training. Many FOs hired in the bubble ten years ago get an extra vacation week this year. Also after the classic retirements the company put on all the shoulder flying and found they could still fill airplanes. The shoulder flying makes money but makes the aircraft day too long to cover with 2 crews. We might even see red eye flying to connect HI paxs to east coast destinations.

Hopefully all these factors will mean the open time market will return to normal by next summer. If not, reserve gonna go real senior...
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
Latest number passed down recently is 750 new hires a year indefinitely. I don’t get it since we max retirements at 250 or so a year so it must be significant growth. Of course all numbers are subject to change but that’s what was said presently.
My worthless bet is that SWA is hedging pilots against the "shortage".

Yea. That's a thing now.
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:58 PM
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I'm hoping this is it. I don't think the company intends to kill the premium marketplace, if so they'd upgrade more and kill premium on the captain side also.
Premium on the Cptn’s side is pretty much killed. Perhaps not to the extent as on the FO’s side, but....

Hell, even give away is filled with junk trips. I know it’s a slow time of the year but it hasn’t been like this before.

Now they’re gonna upgrade 400 in the first six months of 2019 and 600 total?! At least it’ll make the shortage of premium and decent trips in give away better for FOs.

I stand by what I wrote....I just don’t get it.
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Disregard. I originally said we should ask a chief pilot or SWAPA, but I doubt they have any more info than we do.

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No, the giant glowing crystal ball of SWA pilot hiring is a mystery wrapped in an enigma. I seriously don’t think anyone has the big picture. It’s like a war plan that they only give a piece of to each person so that when Delta or Spirit captures and waterboards you with a giant bottle of Dasani and a tiny napkin, you won’t divulge all the info.
Their secret is safe (from everyone).
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