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Old 10-09-2018, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
FTFY: But not to worry... we'll staple the pilots...

Have to admit, has a familiar ring to it.
Ouch! Shades of TWA. A good chunk of the pilots got stapled. Every single FA got stapled, then furloughed.
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Old 10-09-2018, 05:24 PM
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Ouch! Shades of TWA. A good chunk of the pilots got stapled. Every single FA got stapled, then furloughed.
Shades of AirTran (a non-bankrupt carrier unlike TWA), where the majority of FOs got stapled.
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Shades of AirTran (a non-bankrupt carrier unlike TWA), where the majority of FOs got stapled.


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Old 10-09-2018, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Yeah, Airtran had it's most profitable year when it was taken over. The most senior 100 FOs (at 50% relative seniority) that would have upgraded in 2010 are now getting a chance to upgrade 8 years later (and only because of 1000 pilots bypassing). ALL the pilots from AT that could hold captain on the ISL were displaced back to FO, and had to wait up to 3 years before they could bid back to captain. 900-ish pilots were displaced out of ATL. A lot of SWA pilots looked sideways at the AT pilots because they didn't get a 737 rating or interviewed.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to work for SWA, but I can certainly understand if not everyone is ready to let it go.
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Old 10-09-2018, 09:29 PM
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Why? Someone mentioned TWA/AA’s SLI. My comment was pertenent to the discussion. Few things irritate me more then when someone tells me to “let it go”.

I’ll let it go IF and WHEN I feel like it. Perhaps I’ve already let it go. Either way.....that’s for me to decide. Not someone else.

Should I be telling you when to “let it go” when you have to euthanize your pet, or when you lost big money on a stock? Same situation with our fiasco of an SLI.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:26 AM
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Why was AirTran for sale?
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Why? Someone mentioned TWA/AA’s SLI. My comment was pertenent to the discussion. Few things irritate me more then when someone tells me to “let it go”.



I’ll let it go IF and WHEN I feel like it. Perhaps I’ve already let it go. Either way.....that’s for me to decide. Not someone else.



Should I be telling you when to “let it go” when you have to euthanize your pet, or when you lost big money on a stock? Same situation with our fiasco of an SLI.


Yeah totally the same. Great comparison.
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Why? Someone mentioned TWA/AA’s SLI. My comment was pertenent to the discussion. Few things irritate me more then when someone tells me to “let it go”.

I’ll let it go IF and WHEN I feel like it. Perhaps I’ve already let it go. Either way.....that’s for me to decide. Not someone else.

Should I be telling you when to “let it go” when you have to euthanize your pet, or when you lost big money on a stock? Same situation with our fiasco of an SLI.
Let it go

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To get back on topic, I'm curious how the delivery schedule for airplanes looks going forward. The last -800 has been delivered and from now on all new airplanes SWA accepts will me MAX variants. Of course, I am sure they look at the used market closely as well.

At any rate, growth equals quicker upgrade times. I was hired in February of 2017 and it's been steady at 10 years or so since then. The -300s are gone and I think the overall fleet is currently smaller than it was then. But that will change.

I have no numerical projection but I'm thinking upgrade will have to come down to under 10 years at some point assuming the newer airplanes are delivered more quickly than the earliest -700s are retired.
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:22 PM
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We have -700’s that are older than some of the -300’s we retired.
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