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10-22-2018, 06:10 AM
#112
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 42
SWOTAXXXXXX/DOT/1700/FO/XXXX-21/3DAY/15.70TFP/20.33TFP/1030BLK/1300RPT/1635RLS/LAX-SMF.
SWOTAXXXXXX/SNOTS1153/FO/XXXX-20/3DAY/15.25TFP/1300BLK/1425RPT/1510RLS/SJC-LAX.
This is the kind of absolute garbage I'm seeing in open time.
A 3 Day premium that only pays 20 Trips!?
Or a 3 Day SNOTS that only pays 15 Trips?
Neither one with DH's
It's this kind of boned up open time that I see and swipe left. And it's all the time now.
SpookyWatcher
SWOTAXXXXXX/SNOTS1153/FO/XXXX-20/3DAY/15.25TFP/1300BLK/1425RPT/1510RLS/SJC-LAX.
This is the kind of absolute garbage I'm seeing in open time.
A 3 Day premium that only pays 20 Trips!?
Or a 3 Day SNOTS that only pays 15 Trips?
Neither one with DH's
It's this kind of boned up open time that I see and swipe left. And it's all the time now.
SpookyWatcher
10-22-2018, 06:16 AM
#113
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,027
SWOTAXXXXXX/DOT/1700/FO/XXXX-21/3DAY/15.70TFP/20.33TFP/1030BLK/1300RPT/1635RLS/LAX-SMF.
SWOTAXXXXXX/SNOTS1153/FO/XXXX-20/3DAY/15.25TFP/1300BLK/1425RPT/1510RLS/SJC-LAX.
This is the kind of absolute garbage I'm seeing in open time.
A 3 Day premium that only pays 20 Trips!?
Or a 3 Day SNOTS that only pays 15 Trips?
Neither one with DH's
It's this kind of boned up open time that I see and swipe left. And it's all the time now.
SpookyWatcher
SWOTAXXXXXX/SNOTS1153/FO/XXXX-20/3DAY/15.25TFP/1300BLK/1425RPT/1510RLS/SJC-LAX.
This is the kind of absolute garbage I'm seeing in open time.
A 3 Day premium that only pays 20 Trips!?
Or a 3 Day SNOTS that only pays 15 Trips?
Neither one with DH's
It's this kind of boned up open time that I see and swipe left. And it's all the time now.
SpookyWatcher
Right ?
Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 10-22-2018 at 08:56 AM.
10-22-2018, 06:20 AM
#114
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 41
If you are ever bored in your hotel room, take a look at some of the absolute crap that gets bids on both sides of the cockpit. I have seen noncommutable two days with long overnights and no deadheads that pay 10 get gobbled up. Overmanning breeds desperation. I would be kicking myself for two straight days if I were flying a trip like that.
I get bidding on stuff that you can fly from your commuter city or that somehow turns into a good deal if it is combined with another trip, but come on!
I get bidding on stuff that you can fly from your commuter city or that somehow turns into a good deal if it is combined with another trip, but come on!
10-22-2018, 06:53 AM
#115
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,027
If you are ever bored in your hotel room, take a look at some of the absolute crap that gets bids on both sides of the cockpit. I have seen noncommutable two days with long overnights and no deadheads that pay 10 get gobbled up. Overmanning breeds desperation. I would be kicking myself for two straight days if I were flying a trip like that.
I get bidding on stuff that you can fly from your commuter city or that somehow turns into a good deal if it is combined with another trip, but come on!
I get bidding on stuff that you can fly from your commuter city or that somehow turns into a good deal if it is combined with another trip, but come on!
That has always been typical in the "off" months, like Sept. and Feb.
With a few exceptions, it's been the entire year in MCO.
10-22-2018, 08:06 AM
#116
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,803
It’s bad. Have only been on this side of the partition for 5.5 years but my lord......the trips in TTGA, ELLIT are utter garbage and yet we’re gonna hire another 700(+) next year? WHY?!
10-22-2018, 08:52 AM
#117
Gets Weekend Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,776
I read somewhere that the Hawaii operation will take around 30 aircraft or so. I don't think we'll be pulling out of existing markets just to serve Hawaii if we can help it... plus supposedly, we're gonna be adding yet another day of training next year.
10-22-2018, 09:11 AM
#118
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,803
I don’t mind making less money but don’t want to work the same number of days to do it.
PRODUCTIVITY!!!!
10-22-2018, 11:41 AM
#119
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: American Airlines Brake Pad Replacement Technician
Posts: 476
Why does it seem the topic of Manning, and how it directly effects QOL/Productivity/Flexibility, doesnt really resonate with the SWA pilot population?
Our representation needs to know it's important. But they won't know that, unless we tell them it is.
As recent as 3 months ago there was union communication all was well regarding premium & manning...there's a big reality chasm disconnect the group needs to connect thier representation with regarding manning...and how it is directly tied to QOL/Productivity/Flexibility
Last edited by Caveman; 10-22-2018 at 11:54 AM.
10-22-2018, 12:03 PM
#120
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,803
I quoted your post out of convenience...but hope to solict others responses as well.
Why does it seem the topic of Manning, and how it directly effects QOL/Productivity/Flexibility, doesnt really resonate with the SWA pilot population?
Our representation needs to know it's important. But they won't know that, unless we tell them it is.
As recent as 3 months ago there was union communication all was well regarding premium & manning...there's a big reality chasm disconnect the group needs to connect thier representation with regarding manning...and how it is directly tied to QOL/Productivity/Flexibility
Why does it seem the topic of Manning, and how it directly effects QOL/Productivity/Flexibility, doesnt really resonate with the SWA pilot population?
Our representation needs to know it's important. But they won't know that, unless we tell them it is.
As recent as 3 months ago there was union communication all was well regarding premium & manning...there's a big reality chasm disconnect the group needs to connect thier representation with regarding manning...and how it is directly tied to QOL/Productivity/Flexibility
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