Engine explodes during Southwest flight
04-17-2018, 09:48 PM
#71
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I say it was an Outstanding performance by the entire crew. Sure they did their job and they did what they were trained to do...but they did it for real (not in a simulator) and they did it "good enough" to not make the emergency worse. The Captain even said good-day to each controller she ended with...pretty mellow and in control. I would argue that she was collected enough to even keep ATC and anybody else listening calm and coolheaded. CRM extends to anybody with a say-so in the matter.
04-18-2018, 01:46 AM
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It is awful that a life was lost. But an excellent job by the crew managing one of the worst imaginable situations that can be handed out, suddenly without warning.
Will this have an effect on SWA's ETOPS application for the MAX (Hawaii etc)? A combination of engine out and depressurization is used as a "worst case" for ETOPS planning, and it seems like the maintenance aspects of this event would certainly ping somebody's radar in Oklahoma City.
Will this have an effect on SWA's ETOPS application for the MAX (Hawaii etc)? A combination of engine out and depressurization is used as a "worst case" for ETOPS planning, and it seems like the maintenance aspects of this event would certainly ping somebody's radar in Oklahoma City.
04-18-2018, 01:48 AM
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It wasn't snarky, it was just factual about who the first female Navy fighter pilot was.
No commentary on either Hultrgeen or this SWA captain offered or implied.
04-18-2018, 03:16 AM
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04-18-2018, 03:18 AM
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It is awful that a life was lost. But an excellent job by the crew managing one of the worst imaginable situations that can be handed out, suddenly without warning.
Will this have an effect on SWA's ETOPS application for the MAX (Hawaii etc)? A combination of engine out and depressurization is used as a "worst case" for ETOPS planning, and it seems like the maintenance aspects of this event would certainly ping somebody's radar in Oklahoma City.
Will this have an effect on SWA's ETOPS application for the MAX (Hawaii etc)? A combination of engine out and depressurization is used as a "worst case" for ETOPS planning, and it seems like the maintenance aspects of this event would certainly ping somebody's radar in Oklahoma City.
04-18-2018, 03:30 AM
#76
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First, kudos to every member of that Crew.
Second, condolences to those concerned.
Third, this is the 2nd uncontained engine failure at SW with the CFM56.
Since there’s like 10,000 CFM56’s out there on 73’s and like every 3 sec a 73 takes off somewhere in the world.
I’m putting my money on a subcontractor and overhaul practices and procedures.
Second, condolences to those concerned.
Third, this is the 2nd uncontained engine failure at SW with the CFM56.
Since there’s like 10,000 CFM56’s out there on 73’s and like every 3 sec a 73 takes off somewhere in the world.
I’m putting my money on a subcontractor and overhaul practices and procedures.
04-18-2018, 03:46 AM
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First, kudos to every member of that Crew.
Second, condolences to those concerned.
Third, this is the 2nd uncontained engine failure at SW with the CFM56.
Since there’s like 10,000 CFM56’s out there on 73’s and like every 3 sec a 73 takes off somewhere in the world.
I’m putting my money on a subcontractor and overhaul practices and procedures.
Second, condolences to those concerned.
Third, this is the 2nd uncontained engine failure at SW with the CFM56.
Since there’s like 10,000 CFM56’s out there on 73’s and like every 3 sec a 73 takes off somewhere in the world.
I’m putting my money on a subcontractor and overhaul practices and procedures.
CFM is probably ****ting bricks.
04-18-2018, 04:17 AM
#78
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It happened at the same operator.
I’ll bet money the same subcontractors or overhaul facilities worked on that engine.
There are third world operators with very poor or no MX operating these engines. And it didn’t happen there.
There’s a red flag here somewhere.
Alternate method of compliance or some other maintenance procedure/technique.
And that’s probably outsourced.
04-18-2018, 05:13 AM
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Question for those more in the know. Based on this picture, is the containment ring in question the ring that seems intact that immediately surrounds the front fan or is it the remaining section that is missing forward of it? It looks like when this thing, and the one previous to it in 2016 came apart, it shook the forward inlet cowl apart / off once it shed the blade and it became unbalanced at speed.
Last edited by DeferredItem; 04-18-2018 at 05:36 AM.
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