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Old 04-17-2018, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Because they were in the terminal area getting vectored for final by PHL TRACON when I picked up the LiveATC recording, and while I understand and have practiced the "give the FO the jet" CRM technique myself, my experience is most CAs would prefer to do a OEI landing themselves - especially if the integrity of the aircraft has been compromised.

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If you listen to the liveatc recording, you'll see that once they switch to tower freq, the FO is doing the radios and the Captain is most likely flying. Seems like pretty standard ops to me.
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
If you listen to the liveatc recording, you'll see that once they switch to tower freq, the FO is doing the radios and the Captain is most likely flying. Seems like pretty standard ops to me.
I admittedly stopped listening to the recording once she said part of the airplane was missing and a passenger had been sucked out (paraphrase, don't remember the exact wording used).

Just hearing that gave me chills...
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Because they were in the terminal area getting vectored for final by PHL TRACON when I picked up the LiveATC recording, and while I understand and have practiced the "give the FO the jet" CRM technique myself, my experience is most CAs would prefer to do a OEI landing themselves - especially if the integrity of the aircraft has been compromised.

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Originally Posted by at6d
Some airlines have policies stating who will land OEI.
I've seen several airline policies recently recommending that the CA manage and the FO fly up until final, and then the CA takes over if there are going to be any unusual landing characteristics. The policies allow for PIC discretion as needed, ie they can deviate if warranted.
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Old 04-17-2018, 01:40 PM
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A LiveATC user has now combined all three feeds and took out some of the other ATC chatter.

https://www.liveatc.net/recordings.php

Use the feed uploaded by ChapinB.
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Lot of assumptions here...CA was the female.


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Old 04-17-2018, 03:09 PM
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Well done to the crew. Look forward to seeing what the NTSB comes up with on the engine.
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Very tragic accident as it appears this was the first passenger fatality for WN. Great job by the crew and a true example of CRM and the training that has made aviation in the US as safe as it is.


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Old 04-17-2018, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TexBubba
I commute on you guys all the time, always fantastic service and safety. Looks like this crew had their hands full and did a professional, outstanding, and exemplary job as professional aviators. Cheers!
I’d like to second that.
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Originally Posted by sMFer
Lot of assumptions here...CA was the female.


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She is not only female but was the first female fighter pilot in the Navy according to sources.
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Unbelievable!!!

Great job by the crew s a whole!! Him or her....her and him.....all of them. Independent of who was PIC or SIC.

Very sad to hear the pax has passed. I can’t fathom having a pax die under my watch.
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