Search

Notices

Can you guys—

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-31-2018, 04:34 AM
  #51  
With the Rebel Forces.
Thread Starter
 
Bootleg's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Observing
Posts: 289
Default

I asked a question about something I had heard. The question was answered—found to be true. I was surprised by that.

Nothing else to see here.

Move along
Bootleg is offline  
Old 03-31-2018, 12:49 PM
  #52  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Rolf's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2010
Posts: 662
Default

Boot,

I believe that to be true for every airline out there. It’s not perfect, but it’s something. If I’m going to sink someone’s career, they will have earned it. And like you pointed out, tools can slip thru. Checking the interviewee list against the jumpseat protection list would be an excellent use of a negative recommendation, imo.
Rolf is offline  
Old 03-31-2018, 12:59 PM
  #53  
Furloughed Again?!
 
ZapBrannigan's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
Default

Remember the old saying, “Always be nice to your FOs, they might be the captain at your next job.”?

Just be a good person. We aren’t launching a Mars probe here. It just flying airplanes. If you are fun to be with on a 4 day trip, can learn something from another pilot in either seat, tell stories and listen to stories from others without interrupting, you’re probably ok. Oh, also don’t harass any coworkers. I don’t want to have to make excuses for why you’re creepy.

If someone gets torpedoed, they probably deserve it.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
ZapBrannigan is offline  
Old 03-31-2018, 01:10 PM
  #54  
With the Rebel Forces.
Thread Starter
 
Bootleg's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Observing
Posts: 289
Default

Originally Posted by Rolf
Boot,

I believe that to be true for every airline out there. It’s not perfect, but it’s something. If I’m going to sink someone’s career, they will have earned it. And like you pointed out, tools can slip thru. Checking the interviewee list against the jumpseat protection list would be an excellent use of a negative recommendation, imo.

Rolf,

You have a valid point. No doubt, some people have done things to more than deserve something to happen to them like that. But—I have a soft spot for little kids and families. I just don’t know if I could do it—even if I hated the guy. He might have a family depending on him.

Idk.
Bootleg is offline  
Old 03-31-2018, 01:18 PM
  #55  
With the Rebel Forces.
Thread Starter
 
Bootleg's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Observing
Posts: 289
Default

Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Remember the old saying, “Always be nice to your FOs, they might be the captain at your next job.”?

Just be a good person. We aren’t launching a Mars probe here. It just flying airplanes. If you are fun to be with on a 4 day trip, can learn something from another pilot in either seat, tell stories and listen to stories from others without interrupting, you’re probably ok. Oh, also don’t harass any coworkers. I don’t want to have to make excuses for why you’re creepy.

If someone gets torpedoed, they probably deserve it.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Zap,

Unfortunately, I had 6 years in the right seat—so I more than agree with you about being nice to your FO. I think (know) that made me a better captain. But there was more than one example of that program being abused here. Like the chick in the bar bragging about torpedoing guys from her regional. That’s not cool. I would hate like hell to fly with her. A very quiet month for sure.
Bootleg is offline  
Old 04-01-2018, 08:50 AM
  #56  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 27
Default

I had an opportunity to "not recommend" a former boss/total tool and I didn't. He asked me for a recommendation and I told him he'd be better off without my input. While I waited to hear back about whether or not he'd been hired, I hoped for the best that the people department would figure him out. I also had regret the whole time that I didn't say something about what a tool he was.

In the end, he was not hired so happy ending?
shootr is offline  
Old 04-01-2018, 10:16 AM
  #57  
With the Rebel Forces.
Thread Starter
 
Bootleg's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Observing
Posts: 289
Default .....

Exactly. The fair process prevailed w no negative karma on you.

Well done sir!

Things most often work themselves out
Bootleg is offline  
Old 04-01-2018, 10:21 AM
  #58  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 27
Default

Yes, but...I would be singing a different tune had he been able to act his way through the process and been hired on. Also, somebody else may have done the deed. Just saying the ability exists for a reason.
shootr is offline  
Old 04-01-2018, 11:46 AM
  #59  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 659
Default

Originally Posted by Bootleg
Exactly. The fair process prevailed w no negative karma on you.

Well done sir!

Things most often work themselves out
You believe in karma? Sounds kinda new age, snowflake.
Peacock is offline  
Old 04-01-2018, 12:33 PM
  #60  
Gets Everyday Off
 
TransWorld's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Fully Retired
Posts: 7,000
Default

Originally Posted by shootr
I had an opportunity to "not recommend" a former boss/total tool and I didn't. He asked me for a recommendation and I told him he'd be better off without my input. While I waited to hear back about whether or not he'd been hired, I hoped for the best that the people department would figure him out. I also had regret the whole time that I didn't say something about what a tool he was.

In the end, he was not hired so happy ending?
I guess I would have the guts to provide a carefully worded letter, one which an experienced HR person would see right through.

Something like he is in a class by himself. No one is equal to him. When he is running the show, he really runs the show. No one can be compared to him.

No lies. Nothing derogatory. Nothing illegal. But like I said, if someone reads HR letters for a living, they will get the point.

But, that is just my style.
TransWorld is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices