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Old 03-31-2018, 03:34 AM
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I asked a question about something I had heard. The question was answered—found to be true. I was surprised by that.

Nothing else to see here.

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Old 03-31-2018, 11:49 AM
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Boot,

I believe that to be true for every airline out there. It’s not perfect, but it’s something. If I’m going to sink someone’s career, they will have earned it. And like you pointed out, tools can slip thru. Checking the interviewee list against the jumpseat protection list would be an excellent use of a negative recommendation, imo.
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Old 03-31-2018, 11:59 AM
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Remember the old saying, “Always be nice to your FOs, they might be the captain at your next job.”?

Just be a good person. We aren’t launching a Mars probe here. It just flying airplanes. If you are fun to be with on a 4 day trip, can learn something from another pilot in either seat, tell stories and listen to stories from others without interrupting, you’re probably ok. Oh, also don’t harass any coworkers. I don’t want to have to make excuses for why you’re creepy.

If someone gets torpedoed, they probably deserve it.


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Old 03-31-2018, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rolf
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I believe that to be true for every airline out there. It’s not perfect, but it’s something. If I’m going to sink someone’s career, they will have earned it. And like you pointed out, tools can slip thru. Checking the interviewee list against the jumpseat protection list would be an excellent use of a negative recommendation, imo.

Rolf,

You have a valid point. No doubt, some people have done things to more than deserve something to happen to them like that. But—I have a soft spot for little kids and families. I just don’t know if I could do it—even if I hated the guy. He might have a family depending on him.

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Old 03-31-2018, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Remember the old saying, “Always be nice to your FOs, they might be the captain at your next job.”?

Just be a good person. We aren’t launching a Mars probe here. It just flying airplanes. If you are fun to be with on a 4 day trip, can learn something from another pilot in either seat, tell stories and listen to stories from others without interrupting, you’re probably ok. Oh, also don’t harass any coworkers. I don’t want to have to make excuses for why you’re creepy.

If someone gets torpedoed, they probably deserve it.


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Unfortunately, I had 6 years in the right seat—so I more than agree with you about being nice to your FO. I think (know) that made me a better captain. But there was more than one example of that program being abused here. Like the chick in the bar bragging about torpedoing guys from her regional. That’s not cool. I would hate like hell to fly with her. A very quiet month for sure.
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Old 04-01-2018, 07:50 AM
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I had an opportunity to "not recommend" a former boss/total tool and I didn't. He asked me for a recommendation and I told him he'd be better off without my input. While I waited to hear back about whether or not he'd been hired, I hoped for the best that the people department would figure him out. I also had regret the whole time that I didn't say something about what a tool he was.

In the end, he was not hired so happy ending?
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:16 AM
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Exactly. The fair process prevailed w no negative karma on you.

Well done sir!

Things most often work themselves out
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:21 AM
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Yes, but...I would be singing a different tune had he been able to act his way through the process and been hired on. Also, somebody else may have done the deed. Just saying the ability exists for a reason.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bootleg
Exactly. The fair process prevailed w no negative karma on you.

Well done sir!

Things most often work themselves out
You believe in karma? Sounds kinda new age, snowflake.
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Old 04-01-2018, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by shootr
I had an opportunity to "not recommend" a former boss/total tool and I didn't. He asked me for a recommendation and I told him he'd be better off without my input. While I waited to hear back about whether or not he'd been hired, I hoped for the best that the people department would figure him out. I also had regret the whole time that I didn't say something about what a tool he was.

In the end, he was not hired so happy ending?
I guess I would have the guts to provide a carefully worded letter, one which an experienced HR person would see right through.

Something like he is in a class by himself. No one is equal to him. When he is running the show, he really runs the show. No one can be compared to him.

No lies. Nothing derogatory. Nothing illegal. But like I said, if someone reads HR letters for a living, they will get the point.

But, that is just my style.
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