CGfalconHerc

Unless it's the Jerk who gets hired first..then black-balls 3 guys to make sure SWA doesn't know he got fired from a previous airline and is under investigation from a mishap in the military.

Doesn't matter to me..but a couple guys I know were pretty bummed after getting a type rating, doing well in the interview and making it to the decision board only to get shot down. It was later confirmed that the Jerk had indeed "not recommended" them in order to hide his past..and they never got a call from anyone at SWA to elaborate on the negative opinion.

But they're on to bigger and better things now..water under the bridge..but it did happen, and the 3 that were black-balled were definitely not jerks.

ZapBrannigan

I would only blackball someone who uses the word “snowflake”.

It’s really overused and it bugs me.


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Psycho18th

I think a person would have to be pretty terrible for me to influence ruining their career and hurt their family’s income by writing a do-not-recommend. I get the feeling it’s hard to sneak past the three people on the HR interview, the two pilots in the LOI, and the pilot doing a logbook review, on top of the people you’d run into getting to/from the interview without your true colors shining through if you were a true a-hole worth not-recommending. But then again, I snuck in, so they must have some off days...

Smokey23

If this really happened as you described (and if so, it would be far & away the greatest hiring injustice I have ever heard of in my 20 yrs here), you or any of your three buds can retroactively 'black-ball' said Jerk with an anonymous phone call to our People Dept. I find it hard to believe they might not have caught such egregious skeletons in the course of their background checks, but if the Jerk did not disclose them at the time he was hired, he could still be terminated at any time afterwards for lying on his app.

e6bpilot

I have flown with one of our background checkers. They are pretty meticulous and I find it hard to believe that anyone with skeletons mentioned above would get it past them. They go to great lengths and have seen just about every trick in the book as far as covering stuff up. They are basically a team of pilot private investigators.

Yes, we have a “not recommend” option. I view it as a good thing. Anyone who has ever had a job anywhere knows about “that guy” that can do no wrong in the eyes of his/her bosses but sucks as a pilot and human being. If I had a problem with someone I know working here, I would use it in a heartbeat.
I would hope I would get a call from someone to ask about it, but I doubt it is a single point of failure as far as getting a job offer or any kind of deal breaker.

CGfalconHerc

It did happen. According to my buds, the Jerk was working for his previous airline and when the military investigation team met him at the gate for his statement, the Jerk refused, and confronted the CP about telling CGI his schedule. The CP asked why CGI wanted to talk to him..he refused..and he was fired/ quit simultaneously. Since he says he quit, he wouldn't have had to declare it on his app. In addition, he already had a class date with SWA..so he just went and made sure noone else would inform SWA. The military investigation wasn't concluded until he was already working for SWA, so they doubted that he had lied on his app since nothing was concluded when he was interviewing. They didn't think SWA would take the word from a non-employee, did not want some sort of legal fight while they were looking for a job...so they moved on and got hired elsewhere. The real price was paid by his copilot and enlisted crew who wound up taking the fall for him while he lived the high-life at SWA.

Plus, the Jerk had a family too. They had deployed with him..and messing with a family's financial future was a step they weren't willing to take. Something about Karma..and "forgiving those who trespass against you."

Like I said..they've moved on..and according to them.. the Jerk isn't worth it. The only reason I mentioned it..was that it is possible for guys/gals to get black-balled..even after urinalysis..which used to be the informal thumbs-up that they were hired.

Maybe the process has changed since then. I'm glad HR tries to contact the applicant if a negative referral is in play. Probably would have shed some light on the situation.

Smooth at FL450

Herc Guy...curious how long ago this happened?

CGfalconHerc

98-99...before the internet and PRIA.

Silver02ex

Most airlines are this way. If someone ****ed off a bunch of people at a previous airline. Would you want to deal with that person at your current airline? This is usually a problem with someone who made a negative impression to many pilots not just one person’s opinion.