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Old 02-24-2018, 05:27 PM
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[QUOTE=full of luv;2535931]Serenity Now!!

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Old 02-27-2018, 04:42 AM
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Hawaiian has 20 717-200 that fly 160 flights per day inter island. If we think we will hurt them with one or two aircraft a day out there, you're drinking too much of Herb's Wild Turkey.
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Old 02-27-2018, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyGirl727
Hawaiian has 20 717-200 that fly 160 flights per day inter island. If we think we will hurt them with one or two aircraft a day out there, you're drinking too much of Herb's Wild Turkey.


Mesa/go! came in with 4 50-seat RJ’s and literally destroyed the market pushing Aloha (61 year player) with 16 737’s dedicated to interisland market out of business...

If Southwest plays it right... that’s where we could make our money.
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Old 02-27-2018, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Mesa/go! came in with 4 50-seat RJ’s and literally destroyed the market pushing Aloha (61 year player) with 16 737’s dedicated to interisland market out of business...

If Southwest plays it right... that’s where we could make our money.

While go! may have been the last straw, Aloha went out of business due to a myriad of reasons that started long before go! arrived on the scene.

The barriers to success in the interisland market for any new entrant are high: Gate space, maintenance hangars, and having the right aircraft.

Do you think that SWA management is willing to invest the capital for a tiny market? It would be interesting to see if a HNL base was started, because I really can’t see using ETOPS planes interisland. What about MKK and LNY?
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:35 PM
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Boarding lines A,B, and C is gonna work really well in Hawaii
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:36 PM
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Any gouge on how quickly we will grow the base?

Also, the email sent out to company stated 100 pilots & 400 FAs.
Those numbers don't jive with the rest of the system.
Any chance it's 100CA & 100FO?
That would be closer to the standard ratio...right?

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Old 03-14-2018, 08:15 PM
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Nobody is going to do Hawaii like Southwest. Our training center is hard at work right now finding new routes to get the 737 there and searching out the sleaziest gates at HNL to park our airplanes at.
SWA Hawaii is going to be “industry leading”, just you watch! We took all those lessons learned and best practices from the legacy boys and put them in the stalls in Dallas for toilet paper. Then we hired a handful of F-16 guys who have never flown there and told them to approach this Hawaii thing like you are going to the moon. The result is going to bankrupt every other carrier and cause HAL to sell out to us for pennies on the dollar.

Too funny, and dead on.

I hope ETOPs goes better than Class 2 Nav. We bought an airline that had been doing WATRS flying for years. Instead of adopting their proven procedures, we come up with all sorts of cockamamie stuff that was guaranteed to, and did, fail.
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by WestCoastHercs
Any gouge on how quickly we will grow the base?

Also, the email sent out to company stated 100 pilots & 400 FAs.
Those numbers don't jive with the rest of the system.
Any chance it's 100CA & 100FO?
That would be closer to the standard ratio...right?
I was at recurrent three weeks ago and CD talked to us. Growing pilots from 100 (50/50) to 500 (250/250) by late spring 2019. Everyone in LAX ETOPS trained along with 1/3rd of OAK. OAK ETOPS was required for line building to incorporate the inter island flying.
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:51 AM
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So can I bid into OAK or LA and get ETOPS trained, bid back to my normal base and then poach Hawaii trips from my couch in OKC?
I need to read this contract thing that we agreed to.
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:55 AM
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I thought I read something about a seatlock (base lock?) for a term after bidding an ETOPS bid group?

Will look into it.
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