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Old 03-17-2018, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bizkit
This is what I thought, just didn’t know if there were any advantages to an early publish date. I actually have the Checked and Set review scheduled as well, but will be after the window closes. Final question, how does the SWA app on the website differ from the Pilot Credentials app? I guess I’ll find out in a week, but just curious if the differ significantly.
If I recall correctly, you can set up your profile on the SWA website right now. When the window opens, it just lets you submit what you've already filled out. I might be remembering incorrectly but I thought I could set up the SWA hiring profile before the window opened. The SWA careers website is pretty simple, a short questionnaire with stuff like are you legal to work in the US, maybe a way to attach a resume, nothing too hard. You need to make sure everything matches your pilotcredentials app, especially your email address, so your apps match up.
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by flensr
Call Rebekah Krone, www.careertakeoff.com. She has a whole process you can go through to prepare you for interviews, not just SWA although she does specialize in SWA prep. You can print your pilotcredentials app to pdf file and send it to her along with your resume. She can talk you through the whole process, and the first phone call where she or her staff explains this stuff is free, no obligations.

Other prep services do the same thing. You send them your resume and a pdf file of your application, and then they tailor your prep to what they see in your application.

edit: I used checked and set, which helped polish up my applications. Rebekah Krone helped me a lot with the actual interview process, but she will also do the same stuff that checked and set does with regards to checking your resume and application. Both are good services, Rebekah will do all of it, checked and set focuses on applications so if you have apps out at multiple companies then it wouldn't hurt to have them review your apps too. That said, SWA will probably try to figure out if they are your primary target or if you'll bail out if United or Delta give you a call. They all want to know that, because training someone who turns around and quits is a huge waste of money/effort and SWA intentionally hires compatible personalities, in addition to their basic qualifications requirements.
Thank you

what about the "everyone who used prep didn't pass the interview" stuff you see out there
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BarrySeal
Thank you

what about the "everyone who used prep didn't pass the interview" stuff you see out there
Checked an set just reviewed your app, makes sure everything is in order, and suggests language/wording that best highlights your attributes, they don’t prep you for your interview.

If you do interview prep (which I did, and got the job) make sure they are helping you frame YOUR stories and answers in a way that best brings out who you are, and that they aren’t filling your head with canned answers.
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by slimothy
Checked an set just reviewed your app, makes sure everything is in order, and suggests language/wording that best highlights your attributes, they don’t prep you for your interview.

If you do interview prep (which I did, and got the job) make sure they are helping you frame YOUR stories and answers in a way that best brings out who you are, and that they aren’t filling your head with canned answers.
thank you. Will likely go with Ms. Krone once I am a year from availability (2020). Getting my logbooks, LOR contacts, etc in order now. Also reviewing B737 type rating vendors
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BarrySeal
Thank you

what about the "everyone who used prep didn't pass the interview" stuff you see out there
I can't really speak to that, since it didn't happen to me. I will say that the approach Rebekah and her team use does not lead a candidate to use canned answers. Her approach is how to ensure your own personality and experiences come through while minimizing distractions caused by avoidable errors in the application and interview process.

They didn't even ask me if I'd used a prep service. I'm not sure if that was a compliment or a critique (could ANYONE be THAT odd all by themselves? haha) but it simply didn't come up. A few techniques I got from the prep service helped me turn the interview from a Q&A session into a fun conversation between senior and junior members of the same community. Nothing magical about it, but to a certain degree you can determine the outcome of your interview in the 15 second walk from the waiting room to the interview room. Is that cheating? I don't think so. It's about taking every opportunity you have to engage your interview team instead of playing verbal ping-pong for an hour. That's what I got out of the prep. Well, that plus some help making sure I had my paperwork squared away so I didn't have to waste time explaining discrepancies or errors or "weird" stuff in my application.
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BarrySeal
thank you. Will likely go with Ms. Krone once I am a year from availability (2020). Getting my logbooks, LOR contacts, etc in order now. Also reviewing B737 type rating vendors
I’ve heard nothing but good things about her.

I highly recommend Crew Pilot Training for you 737 Type. They do a great job getting you through. When I did mine we used 2 facilities in Miami (Osn Am Intnl Sviation Institute and a Boeing building), but I think they are using a facility in Vegas now.

Best of luck!
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:23 PM
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Concur on CPT for the 737 type. I did mine at the Pan Am simulator facility in Vegas --great program. Very much a firehose, UPT-style, but gets you through in minimum time (and expense if you use Post 9/11 GI Bill)
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bizkit
My availability is 10 months away. My pilot credentials app is about 95% complete, but I won’t have my Class 1 complete until a few days after the window closes. Should I take a chance and apply, or will I be doing more harm than good applying without meeting all the requirements?


Just throwing it out there. If your app gets pulled they WILL compare the date your app gets pulled and compare it to the date you got your class 1. They will compare the app against all certificates and qualifications during the interview. If they see that you claimed you had the class 1 when you filled out the app when in fact you didn't, you will be questioned about it. Very similar situation happened to a friend and they made a big deal about it in his interview. He didn't get the job.

To them it looks like you are dishonest in order to get the interview.


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Old 03-22-2018, 01:51 PM
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Does anyone have an idea when the next window will open? Mid-March possibly?
March 26 - April 8
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Old 03-24-2018, 06:00 AM
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Wondering, after getting a TBNT post interview, is it bad form to re-apply before the year is up? Or does it make little difference until the year has passed? I re-applied in the last window, a couple of weeks short of the one year mark. The next window is after the one year.
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