OnTheRun

Sounds like we have the same resume It is puzzling for sure. A guy I work with submitted his stuff, was not able to go to the Job Fair with half the time, no management or leadership experience. Failed check ride and no type in aircraft. Got the call within weeks and is in training now.

Zini

Here is my thought on this. I was in your same boat. Chief pilot, lots of 135/91 PIC time and was not getting the call. I had every box checked, everything updated and was patiently waiting for years.

I then had a person tell me, its most likely because you're not 121 recent. (I was a regional FO for 6 years about 10 years prior but went 135 after to GET TPIC time.)

I left 135 for a direct entry CA position at a budget regional. I got on the line there and within 6mo got the call to SWA. Im not certain if my transition to 121 again made the job happen, but Im thinking so.

In my class we had 1 corporate guy. 1. Out of 30 guys, 1. So, you are competing with other corporate guys for that 1 or 2 spots every single class. Now, there were about 18 regional guys in my class. So, as a regional person you're really going for about 2/3 of the spots available in any said class. It ups your odds tremendously.

The rest we all know are military here at SWA. So, perhaps thats some insight as to why you specifically arent getting a call, is that youre just up against EVERY other 135/91 guy applying who may be even more qualified than yourself.

Perhaps go 121 any way you can if SWA is your true goal. Update the pilotcredentials and go from there.

Just my 2c

at6d

Two years ago my newhire class had 26. Of that, more than half were military (a handful were military that went regional for recency).

Three or four were from other non-regional 121 carriers.

A couple were corporate with regional time.

The rest were Skywest/Envoy (maybe 6).

All but 6 or 8 had the type.

I wish I knew the magic formula to get passed the computer...

OperatorError

Anyone else's flight times in pilot credentials not add up? I'm showing about 100 hours more on my resume then pilot credentials. Can't pinpoint the problem but it may have something to do with dual received when I didn't hold the private certificate and the multi add on. Driving me nuts!

OnTheRun

Thank you for your response. As much as working at SWA sounds good I would not be up to going to the commuters in the hopes that maybe someday I might get a call for a interview. I did not realize they were that heavy on the Part 121 candidates.

Proximity

Without knowing the ratio of corporate/charter pilots to military and airline pilots it's hard to say if there is a bias. Anecdotally, it seems your much more likely to be called by SWA as a corporate pilot then the other airlines. While there are only a handful of corporate/charter pilots in each class, there just aren't that many corporate pilots out there applying to airlines.

That said, if you really want to go 121, I'd go get some time at a 121 operation that has a base where you live.

I'd also get some people to review your app. There are small things that will cause you not to be selected. Make sure every date on the app is correct, and there are no gaps in your work or residence history!

Zini

Roger that. Keep your credentials updated every week or 2, you never know!

Twinjetav8r

I came out of corporate, as did about 5 other guys in my class.


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happygilmore

Unfortunately, with kids in college, taking an enormous pay cut to log 121 time with a regional isn't possible. It would be year three for me to break even at SWA. I would make the sacrifice for SWA, because of the retirement, profit sharing, etc. Puts me between a rock and a hard place if 121 experience is neccesary. Thanks for the insight.

MrWizard

I attended. My experience and background is in line with what they hire. Have not 'got the call' and if it happens, it happens. Life goes on in any case.

But I am curious. Those of you that got invited to an interview: did they populate pilotcredentials.com with the extra tabs of interview documents to complete, and then contacted you via email/phone? Or do they contact you via email/phone first, and then direct you to the documents tabs which are added?

I'm just curious about how the selected candidates here were first notified of making it to the selection to interview, and I'm sure others here would like that information, too.