Career Earnings
11-14-2017, 03:49 PM
#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 353
First of all I'm not complaining. I'm not counting per diem or 401k contributions, just pay. I'm on reserve, and probably will be till the end of my probation. 15 days off is what I start with. I don't fly too much on reserve nowadays, life is good in that matter. Summer was busier but I had to commute. Now I can't complain because I get flying maybe 7-9 days a month. Picking up is almost impossible because the most open time is over the weekends when I'm on reserve. Weekday open time gets picked up by hungry vultures. Maybe when you were in your first year it was different. I'm not attacking you, just curious how you made 110 grand at 50/tfp. What was your second year pay? Again, no attacks, just legitimate questions. I think I'm intelligent enough to read my pay stubs, but if you doubt me, that's your problem. Numbers don't lie (wish they would in this case). Still, not complaining, I'm much better off than in the left seat at a regional, plus I know it gets better after probation. Peace
11-14-2017, 04:25 PM
#32
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 508
Career Earnings
First of all I'm not complaining. I'm not counting per diem or 401k contributions, just pay. I'm on reserve, and probably will be till the end of my probation. 15 days off is what I start with. I don't fly too much on reserve nowadays, life is good in that matter. Summer was busier but I had to commute. Now I can't complain because I get flying maybe 7-9 days a month. Picking up is almost impossible because the most open time is over the weekends when I'm on reserve. Weekday open time gets picked up by hungry vultures. Maybe when you were in your first year it was different. I'm not attacking you, just curious how you made 110 grand at 50/tfp. What was your second year pay? Again, no attacks, just legitimate questions. I think I'm intelligent enough to read my pay stubs, but if you doubt me, that's your problem. Numbers don't lie (wish they would in this case). Still, not complaining, I'm much better off than in the left seat at a regional, plus I know it gets better after probation. Peace
Sounds like the dynamic of reserve has shifted quite a bit if you're only flying 7-9 days a month. When I was on reserve a few years ago I was happily abused (as a commuter). I rarely went more than 2 days a month with out being used. 110-130 TFP a month was pretty common for me without picking anything up.
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11-14-2017, 04:43 PM
#33
Gets Weekend Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,776
First of all I'm not complaining. I'm not counting per diem or 401k contributions, just pay. I'm on reserve, and probably will be till the end of my probation. 15 days off is what I start with. I don't fly too much on reserve nowadays, life is good in that matter. Summer was busier but I had to commute. Now I can't complain because I get flying maybe 7-9 days a month. Picking up is almost impossible because the most open time is over the weekends when I'm on reserve. Weekday open time gets picked up by hungry vultures. Maybe when you were in your first year it was different. I'm not attacking you, just curious how you made 110 grand at 50/tfp. What was your second year pay? Again, no attacks, just legitimate questions. I think I'm intelligent enough to read my pay stubs, but if you doubt me, that's your problem. Numbers don't lie (wish they would in this case). Still, not complaining, I'm much better off than in the left seat at a regional, plus I know it gets better after probation. Peace
None of us are including 401k, per diem or PS in calculations.
Let’s work this backwards.
You’re saying you’re on track to make 80k your first year. Averaged out over the year, that’s roughly 96 TFP average at first year rate. Is that what you’re averaging?
In my first year, I was banging out 150+ TFP per month. My best probie month was 179 TFP, my worst around 140 TFP. I hit 175 TFP one month on reserve no less, and I wasn’t the highest time guy in my class either!
Have you read our contract and have you learned how the caps work? Or overlap and how you can really turn it to work for you with regards to getting second year rate? If you’re not flying on your reserve blocks, you should be cleaning house!
11-14-2017, 05:30 PM
#34
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 163
No, some of these guys are blowing smoke. You will not have 7 million in retirement. That is so beyond resonable its crazy. Plus guys are not just doing a 3 day trip a week and getting 100 TFP. Guys at this company have to work for the money period. Its how our contract is set up period. So if someone tells you they are consistantly getting 100 TFP for working 12 days and thats the norm they are filling you with bs.
11-14-2017, 05:32 PM
#35
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 163
None of us are including 401k, per diem or PS in calculations.
Let’s work this backwards.
You’re saying you’re on track to make 80k your first year. Averaged out over the year, that’s roughly 96 TFP average at first year rate. Is that what you’re averaging?
In my first year, I was banging out 150+ TFP per month. My best probie month was 179 TFP, my worst around 140 TFP. I hit 175 TFP one month on reserve no less, and I wasn’t the highest time guy in my class either!
Have you read our contract and have you learned how the caps work? Or overlap and how you can really turn it to work for you with regards to getting second year rate? If you’re not flying on your reserve blocks, you should be cleaning house!
Let’s work this backwards.
You’re saying you’re on track to make 80k your first year. Averaged out over the year, that’s roughly 96 TFP average at first year rate. Is that what you’re averaging?
In my first year, I was banging out 150+ TFP per month. My best probie month was 179 TFP, my worst around 140 TFP. I hit 175 TFP one month on reserve no less, and I wasn’t the highest time guy in my class either!
Have you read our contract and have you learned how the caps work? Or overlap and how you can really turn it to work for you with regards to getting second year rate? If you’re not flying on your reserve blocks, you should be cleaning house!
11-14-2017, 06:15 PM
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 191
No, some of these guys are blowing smoke. You will not have 7 million in retirement. That is so beyond resonable its crazy. Plus guys are not just doing a 3 day trip a week and getting 100 TFP. Guys at this company have to work for the money period. Its how our contract is set up period. So if someone tells you they are consistantly getting 100 TFP for working 12 days and thats the norm they are filling you with bs.
Flame, carry-on
11-14-2017, 07:13 PM
#40
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 353
None of us are including 401k, per diem or PS in calculations.
Let’s work this backwards.
You’re saying you’re on track to make 80k your first year. Averaged out over the year, that’s roughly 96 TFP average at first year rate. Is that what you’re averaging?
In my first year, I was banging out 150+ TFP per month. My best probie month was 179 TFP, my worst around 140 TFP. I hit 175 TFP one month on reserve no less, and I wasn’t the highest time guy in my class either!
Have you read our contract and have you learned how the caps work? Or overlap and how you can really turn it to work for you with regards to getting second year rate? If you’re not flying on your reserve blocks, you should be cleaning house!
Let’s work this backwards.
You’re saying you’re on track to make 80k your first year. Averaged out over the year, that’s roughly 96 TFP average at first year rate. Is that what you’re averaging?
In my first year, I was banging out 150+ TFP per month. My best probie month was 179 TFP, my worst around 140 TFP. I hit 175 TFP one month on reserve no less, and I wasn’t the highest time guy in my class either!
Have you read our contract and have you learned how the caps work? Or overlap and how you can really turn it to work for you with regards to getting second year rate? If you’re not flying on your reserve blocks, you should be cleaning house!
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