MOGuy

I get the frustration though. It's a very good chance that if you are a civilian interviewing with a group of mil pilots, you'll get passed over for them. Even if you have thousand hours more and have beeen flying the lines for the past decade. No disrespect from me but it is discouraging sometimes.

RJSAviator76

Classes are roughly half and half. This ain't FedEx or American.


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e6bpilot

I mean the following with no disrespect or divisiveness:
Military hours do not equal civilian hours. You just can't equate the two. Your typical mil guy interviewing will have ten or more years of aviation experience in whatever they flew. They will have generally flown all around the world in some very challenging environments and made some life or death decisions at a very low experience level. They are officers in the military first and don't get the opportunity to fly as much as an airline pilot. That is why the disparity in hours between the two. One does not make a better pilot than another.
To rehash this argument is futile. Right now there is a pretty even split with some classes being more pure civilian than military. We will see how this plays out, but the reason they did away with this dumb requirement that nobody else has is to feed the hiring machine that is cranking up in full gear right now.
I am glad this is gone just like I am glad the type went away. Good riddance.

satpak77

Call me retarded but I don't see any additional threat posed by the "military" applicants.

It is what is. Can't control what you can't control.

This may actually boost the chances of success for the 1000 Turbine PIC and 737 type holder, he now in theory should be at the very top of the stack.

MOGuy

You are very correct. I don't think it's as big of a deal now but a few years ago the tides were different.

Squallrider

Completely playing devils advocate but military experience is also different from civilian in that they don't do departures, arrivals, shoot many approaches, deal with pax etc etc

Jeff Lebowski

Oh boy. Here we go again ...

Chris99

Incorrect.

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Warhawg01

Are all those things supposed to be difficult? Challenging to execute with an airplane?

GatorHog

I get the frustration, too. My "wow" comment was more about the approach...like Zap said, no need to be so dramatic and divisive.

I had a good, respectful exchange with Whackmaster about this a short time ago. My position is that I don't think it makes sense that more civ guys with gobs of experience doing essentially the same job can't get hired. BUT, I don't think they should all just be hired instead of mil guys based on the type of flying and the number of hours, because that would discount the quality training, variety of experience, and responsibility inherent in military flying that airlines obviously value greatly. Both backgrounds are capable and both should be hired.

This point, specifically, I disagree with, though. They don't have quotas. They can hire every person in every interview group if they all make the cut, and they've said as much. It's not a competition within the interview group. If someone didn't get hired it's because they screwed up, not because of the other people.