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Old 11-11-2016, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
Boy, has this spiraled out of control. To set the record straight, I have:

Filed a JSAP with UA MEC.
Filed a PDR filed with UA MEC.

I am fully aware that International JS requires a seat in the back and is not guaranteed. I have have been doing this a long time, out of more than one city pair and with more than one offline airline.

My problem is with the agent's immediate refusal (on more than one occasion) to allow an offline pilot (me) to get anywhere near the plane. And, they will then not inform the Captain that someone inquired about using the jump seat. Their rebuff has been instant and absolute. Add to that, YYJ has a peculiar layout and policies that make it somewhat challenging to speak with the Captain.

I have no beef with anyone else WRT this situation, despite what may have been suggested in this thread. I simply want the policy to be explained to the Agents in YYJ and that ALPA pilots are able utilize the a JS pass for travel leaving YYJ.

The gate agents at these stations are contract and not Skywest employees. Honestly they have no clue when it comes to jumpseating. I have missed many flights due to them not understanding what you are concerned about. No pilot I know at Skywest would knowingly leave a jumpseater.
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I am aware of that. I should have added that to my commentary.

That, coupled with the inability to speak with the Captain is the whole conundrum. I'm not trying to impugn Skywest crews nor policy. Just the agent's refusal to acknowledge and work with it.

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Old 11-12-2016, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
I am aware of that. I should have added that to my commentary.

That, coupled with the inability to speak with the Captain is the whole conundrum. I'm not trying to impugn Skywest crews nor policy. Just the agent's refusal to acknowledge and work with it.




Please pass this info along to your fellow UAL buddy Lambourne, or at least give him a couple of chill pills.
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Old 11-12-2016, 10:25 PM
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Please pass this info along to your fellow UAL buddy Lambourne, or at least give him a couple of chill pills.
Funny he thinks SKYW sub-contracts out UAL outstation handling, totally clueless.
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Old 11-13-2016, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by trip
Funny he thinks SKYW sub-contracts out UAL outstation handling, totally clueless.
Actually I don't. Isn't YYJ a DL connection station? Had this been a UA station and flight the original poster could have used a pass.

Skywest is a sub contractor. Your own people in this thread are blaming non Skywest employees as the problem. So if they aren't Skywest employees then the subcontractor Skywest, is subcontracting their own station operations it appears.

If UA agents were denying Skywest pilots jumpseats due to not applying the correct policy what would be your thoughts? Didn't we have Skywest pilots threatening UA pilots of jumpseat demails when UA changed the fess for express pass travel several years ago?
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Actually I don't. Isn't YYJ a DL connection station? Had this been a UA station and flight the original poster could have used a pass.

Skywest is a sub contractor. Your own people in this thread are blaming non Skywest employees as the problem. So if they aren't Skywest employees then the subcontractor Skywest, is subcontracting their own station operations it appears.

If UA agents were denying Skywest pilots jumpseats due to not applying the correct policy what would be your thoughts? Didn't we have Skywest pilots threatening UA pilots of jumpseat demails when UA changed the fess for express pass travel several years ago?
SkyWest doesn't choose to subcontract the station. That's Delta's decision.
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Old 11-13-2016, 06:01 AM
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Yet to meet a Skywest employee working outside the US. A lot of mainline subcontract outside the US, even non reving can be hard with Kobalt for delta in the UK
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