Skywest JS coordinators email....
11-09-2016, 10:44 AM
#22
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amcnd,
That's why I started this thread. If I could speak with the Captain ahead of time, perhaps he could address this issue that day, but likely that day only. Unfortunately, the crew was already on the other side of the security. In YYJ, you're going to have a tough time getting anywhere near the gate without some type of boarding pass.
I simply feel that if the ALPA JS guy at Skywest (OO?) knew about the issue, he could take steps to address it and inform the agents that offline JS riders are allowed in the back. As it stands now at YYJ, it appears that Skywest Captains have no idea if there's a guy trying to catch a ride. Add to that, it appears that the agents have no idea how to process a JS'er nor the inclination to learn how.
That's why I started this thread. If I could speak with the Captain ahead of time, perhaps he could address this issue that day, but likely that day only. Unfortunately, the crew was already on the other side of the security. In YYJ, you're going to have a tough time getting anywhere near the gate without some type of boarding pass.
I simply feel that if the ALPA JS guy at Skywest (OO?) knew about the issue, he could take steps to address it and inform the agents that offline JS riders are allowed in the back. As it stands now at YYJ, it appears that Skywest Captains have no idea if there's a guy trying to catch a ride. Add to that, it appears that the agents have no idea how to process a JS'er nor the inclination to learn how.
11-09-2016, 11:08 AM
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I to commute out of Canada 3 months out of the year.. And i hate every minute of it.. on Westjet,OO,QX,AC and there so inconsistent.. i only Say "jumpseat" to QX.. even that has its troubles... but the problem i have is OO does 1800 flights a day and one person comes on with one "gate agent" problem and its shut down there international privileges... Im guessing you with a ligit airline like UA. I would start with your guy. He will have OO's and everyone else's contract info...
11-09-2016, 03:46 PM
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Perhaps because you appear somewhat obtuse and cannot comprehend the written word?
Perhaps because you have some bizarre need to blame the messenger?
Perhaps because you desire to uncover some hidden content within the original message which exonerates the agent and finds blame with me? Even though I posted all that was needed in order to explain my request?
Perhaps because you had nothing of substance (namely, information) to offer in response to post number one yet still felt the need to opine?
Please refer to post number 1:
"Having issues with Skywest agents in YYJ regarding the JS. Would like to share my experience with the JS coordinator from Skywest"
I thought that was pretty clear.
Had you said, "What was the issue?" I would have gladly slowed down and filled you in. But it sure seemed to me as though you were pointing the dirty digit of blame and stupidity directly at me. Other responders seem to agree with my assessment. Hence my initial umbrage. And here we are on page three and you still think that I am the bad guy here, not the agent who basically told me to get lost. Thanks for the benefit of the doubt.
If that's not enough, try re-reading post 16, in which I spoke very slowly and clearly adding all the details.
I was wrongly denied the opportunity to use a reciprocal jumpseat agreement by a gate agent. This was not the first occurrence with these agents in this city. How much more do you need to know?
I would like to highlight this episode with the guy in charge and get this fixed for the benefit of all pilots who share a JS agreement with Skywest. Should we get this fixed, I hope that you and others will benefit from my experience and follow up.
Keep 'em coming! I'm on vacation.
Perhaps because you have some bizarre need to blame the messenger?
Perhaps because you desire to uncover some hidden content within the original message which exonerates the agent and finds blame with me? Even though I posted all that was needed in order to explain my request?
Perhaps because you had nothing of substance (namely, information) to offer in response to post number one yet still felt the need to opine?
Please refer to post number 1:
"Having issues with Skywest agents in YYJ regarding the JS. Would like to share my experience with the JS coordinator from Skywest"
I thought that was pretty clear.
Had you said, "What was the issue?" I would have gladly slowed down and filled you in. But it sure seemed to me as though you were pointing the dirty digit of blame and stupidity directly at me. Other responders seem to agree with my assessment. Hence my initial umbrage. And here we are on page three and you still think that I am the bad guy here, not the agent who basically told me to get lost. Thanks for the benefit of the doubt.
If that's not enough, try re-reading post 16, in which I spoke very slowly and clearly adding all the details.
I was wrongly denied the opportunity to use a reciprocal jumpseat agreement by a gate agent. This was not the first occurrence with these agents in this city. How much more do you need to know?
I would like to highlight this episode with the guy in charge and get this fixed for the benefit of all pilots who share a JS agreement with Skywest. Should we get this fixed, I hope that you and others will benefit from my experience and follow up.
Keep 'em coming! I'm on vacation.
Last edited by oldmako; 11-09-2016 at 03:59 PM.
11-10-2016, 05:16 AM
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And then he chewed you up, spit you out and sent your spent, leftover carcus through a wood chipper. And this is your reply? You have NOTHING interesting or positive to add.
11-10-2016, 07:39 AM
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As for International pass benefits and no need for the "free" jumpseat I will ask the next time an OO guy shows up to write a pass out of of LHR. You yourself say they don't need the jumpseat. I will just print and save this post so they can address it internally at OO.
Thank you for making this easy.
Thank you for making this easy.
11-10-2016, 01:04 PM
#29
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Why does this matter if they're jumpseating in back vs. non-revving? It's the same in the computer. The difference is that he is either an offline crew member or just a passenger. Are you going to kick him off because he should be listed as a non-rev? Maybe they were and they were just being nice to decided to check-in with you anyway. I listed as a jumpseater just to see how the procedure worked. When I introduced myself to the CA and purser to ask for a ride, they couldn't have been nicer.
It doesn't appear that the OO pilots think not having a reciprocal policy is a good thing. Notice the comments that it is not their fault because it is a contract station. Aside from the irony of a contract carrier, contracting services it shouldn't matter who is processing the flight, if a reciprocal agreement exist then it should work at ALL locations.
If this were the other way around the outrage by OO pilots would be immense and threats would be front and center. My entire post was to assure we mirrored the policy that OO gives us. Now the new problem is that OO has a policy, but they don't want to enforce that policy. Just look at the responses by OO pilots that believe this is a non-issue if their reciprocal policy isn't upheld. Doesn't affect them so they have no desire to fix this problem.
As a result I did contact my JS coordinator to ask where we stand on this and that if necessary requested we remove OO as INTERNATIONAL jumpseat eligible until OO is motivated enough to fix this issue with all of their international travel.
11-10-2016, 01:11 PM
#30
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Personally I buy tickets when I travel. After 30+ years paid tickets ease the pain a lot.
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