Originally Posted by 93Sierra

Anybody know how class sizes are doing on both fleet types? I had a friend who interviewed and was given a class date only to go somewhere else recently. If the cadet pipeline is full, and class numbers stay ok, is there any hope of anything changing? I was based back east and recently was awarded a west coast base and the moral seems to be the same. People mad at pbs, mad at quality of life, working an insane amount, reflows,and embarrassed when comparing our pathetic aggrement to the 9e and Rah contracts. If this is supposed to be a slower month, coupled with the email a few weeks ago saying "with lower block hours people will have more time off...", and then the email begging us crj pilots to work on days off due to critical staffing needs, are we screwed when spring comes and then the busy summer season? Our competition and cancel numbers have been pretty bad lately. Just hoping that somehow something will change for the better. Haven't heard any rumors

Originally Posted by WesternSkies

What is going on with this forum? This is the greatest time to be a pilot since the 60s. Demand is high, supply is low and corporations are profitable.
I swear if we went back to a hiring freeze people would be "thankful for a job!".

9E has had their bonus money rolled in to pay rates for all of 15 days. Republic hasn't passed anything yet. Our pay talks happened last spring! Can we be stable rational people on the internet and respect the timeline as we and the rest of the regionals work toward 9E/Republic rates?


The OO pilots being disingenuous about where we stand in this industry won't help achieve 9E rates. I do however like reading the fear based posts in here by non-OO pilots. I think I only come here to know that some of you guys still think about us daily.

Originally Posted by Westernflight

Last Spring is when we should have asked for 9E money. Republic money at a bare minimum. Instead the west coasters and new hires were fine with 1%. People like you who are fine hanging on to the coat tails of everyone else is why we continue to drag behind. There isn’t any reason to come here any more other than the West Coast bases, which you’ll never hold as a Captain. If you’re out east the culture is dead and the company continues to find new ways to abuse Junior line holders. Sorry but sitting and waiting for the company to toss us some change is just sad. Hell, even when they finally do approach us with a pay bump it won’t be equal to our competitors, but they’ll use some fancy graphs to sell us longevity increases as part of our raise! Update your apps people.

Originally Posted by Duesenflieger

100% agree. Morale is utterly hideous east of Denver. We have people quitting and heading off to part 135 operations so that they can procure time off. The schedules are rough. The further west one goes though, the more fanatic lifers are to be encountered, those who would be willing to sell all their belongings for the sake of the company's future. Sad state of affairs....

Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate

And yet, here you are. I bet you are a real treat to fly with.

Originally Posted by skiK2

Quite possibly one of the worst posts I've read on APC, and that's saying something. If you want days off, you don't go Part 135. You may have been talking to an outlier that left, but it is certainly not the norm.

Originally Posted by skiK2

Quite possibly one of the worst posts I've read on APC, and that's saying something. If you want days off, you don't go Part 135. You may have been talking to an outlier that left, but it is certainly not the norm.

Originally Posted by Duesenflieger

100% agree. Morale is utterly hideous east of Denver. We have people quitting and heading off to part 135 operations so that they can procure time off. The schedules are rough. The further west one goes though, the more fanatic lifers are to be encountered, those who would be willing to sell all their belongings for the sake of the company's future. Sad state of affairs....