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Old 12-23-2017, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Duesenflieger
Seriously? Nothing will change here...EVER. And no one cares.

Focus on GTFO of here. Keep moving up. That right there constitutes our change.
Ya, I know, don't know what I was thinking?

Unfortunately you are 10000% correct!

My new year's resolution is to get out!
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Old 12-23-2017, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Ya, I know, don't know what I was thinking?

Unfortunately you are 10000% correct!

My new year's resolution is to get out!
GMTA. Me too. Good luck to both of us. Cheers
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Old 12-23-2017, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Because management (amcnd) would then know who voted against the company and they would be targeted. While there are some fantastic individuals as our reps the sad reality is SAPA represents the company to the pilots. Their hands are tied. When the VP of Ops tells me our current SAPA president is the best one we have ever had, that tells me he is not representing the pilots.

Also a pilot should be on line for at least a year before being eligible to vote.
The SAPA president went to all the new hire classes and did the hard sell.

It's time for change!
Many new hires voted no.
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Old 12-23-2017, 05:42 PM
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Everybody has their own opinion and that is fine, but I don’t care how a rep votes. I care if or if not a rep votes to send the package to the pilot group AND what was or was not in said package.

That said, I’ve heard a couple of reps announce publically that they voted no which is contrary to what I’ve read here.
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Old 12-23-2017, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Everybody has their own opinion and that is fine, but I don’t care how a rep votes. I care if or if not a rep votes to send the package to the pilot group AND what was or was not in said package.

That said, I’ve heard a couple of reps announce publically that they voted no which is contrary to what I’ve read here.
Reps?
Vote?
Do you people really believe you have some form of representation?

OMG!

Crack me up!
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Old 12-23-2017, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
Reps?
Vote?
Do you people really believe you have some form of representation?

OMG!

Crack me up!
I'll give that to ya.
With 19 years in the regional game, starting over at another regional probably makes people into a less friendly version of themselves.
Merry Christmas.
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Old 12-23-2017, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
Reps?
Vote?
Do you people really believe you have some form of representation?

OMG!

Crack me up!
That's awesome. I see the "contract" word get thrown around quite a bit too. If Skywest decides to violate the so called 'handbook' there isn't anything the pilots can do. When push comes to shove that's when things will get interesting.
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Old 12-24-2017, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Everybody has their own opinion and that is fine, but I don’t care how a rep votes. I care if or if not a rep votes to send the package to the pilot group AND what was or was not in said package.

That said, I’ve heard a couple of reps announce publically that they voted no which is contrary to what I’ve read here.

Yes some reps voted no. After voting yes to send the package to the pilots. Two different things.

At least one was hoping for a resounding defeat at the hands of the pilots, to send a message. Obviously that didn't work out.
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Old 12-24-2017, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MidnightHauler
Many new hires voted no.
Of course some did, although they were probably of the 10-11 month variety. There's a reason NOBODY else lets new hires vote. You need to walk in someones shoes before you can make decisions on their behalf, newhires are still trying to wash off the koolaid marinade.
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Old 12-24-2017, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
If you have been gone from OO for quite some time, how is it you seem to have all this information and opinions on things?
Pot->kettle
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