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Old 12-22-2017, 07:06 PM
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Are folks believing the NYC base to be inevitable with at least 20 planes going up there? If so that'll make the 175 upgrade swing even more JR, right?
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:00 PM
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First, I don’t think we will open a NYC base. Maybe something like BNA, or ATL for the ERJ.. second i dont think many realy are holding out for DL benefits before bidding the ERJ.. i see short upgrades continuing for at least the next year..
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
First, I don’t think we will open a NYC base. Maybe something like BNA, or ATL for the ERJ.. second i dont think many realy are holding out for DL benefits before bidding the ERJ.. i see short upgrades continuing for at least the next year..
First, there is exactly zero ERJ flying in ATL per DL net.

Second, we will likely have more a/c serving the NYC market than we have in ATL. I have a hard time seeing that w/o a base there eventually. But it will likely take 9-12 months and two massive winter IROPs to get to that conclusion.
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:17 PM
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Why don't any of the Sapa representative candidates say whether they voted yes or no to the TA? Isn't that the main issue here? Like I don't care if they think skywest has the greatest pilots. I want to know how they voted. Were they yes voters? I'm specifically talking about region 3.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by N1234
First, there is exactly zero ERJ flying in ATL per DL net.

Second, we will likely have more a/c serving the NYC market than we have in ATL. I have a hard time seeing that w/o a base there eventually. But it will likely take 9-12 months and two massive winter IROPs to get to that conclusion.
I never said right now... and if you or anybody can even guess what the routes will look like when the 42 aircraft show up next year good luck... but wouldn’t rule it out...
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Old 12-23-2017, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by N1234
First, there is exactly zero ERJ flying in ATL per DL net.

Second, we will likely have more a/c serving the NYC market than we have in ATL. I have a hard time seeing that w/o a base there eventually. But it will likely take 9-12 months and two massive winter IROPs to get to that conclusion.
Wait til you see the summer IROPs. At least 2-3 per week.
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Old 12-23-2017, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mooneycfi
Why don't any of the Sapa representative candidates say whether they voted yes or no to the TA? Isn't that the main issue here? Like I don't care if they think skywest has the greatest pilots. I want to know how they voted. Were they yes voters? I'm specifically talking about region 3.
Because management (amcnd) would then know who voted against the company and they would be targeted. While there are some fantastic individuals as our reps the sad reality is SAPA represents the company to the pilots. Their hands are tied. When the VP of Ops tells me our current SAPA president is the best one we have ever had, that tells me he is not representing the pilots.

Also a pilot should be on line for at least a year before being eligible to vote.
The SAPA president went to all the new hire classes and did the hard sell.

It's time for change!
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Old 12-23-2017, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Also a pilot should be on line for at least a year before being eligible to vote.
Yes.

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The SAPA president went to all the new hire classes and did the hard sell.
The lifers are worried about having someone to swing their gear between now and retirement.

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It's time for change!
Good luck.
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Old 12-23-2017, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Because management (amcnd) would then know who voted against the company and they would be targeted. While there are some fantastic individuals as our reps the sad reality is SAPA represents the company to the pilots. Their hands are tied. When the VP of Ops tells me our current SAPA president is the best one we have ever had, that tells me he is not representing the pilots.

Also a pilot should be on line for at least a year before being eligible to vote.
The SAPA president went to all the new hire classes and did the hard sell.

It's time for change!
Seriously? Nothing will change here...EVER. And no one cares.

Focus on GTFO of here. Keep moving up. That right there constitutes our change.

Investing in changing a regional is like altering a mountainside into a pristine, robust city - it'll take a lot of resources and expense achieving that. Moving up and out to a better air carrier on the other hand is like traversing around the mountain range to reach the glistening city on the other side of the mountain next to the resource-rich river bank which has already been constructed and has a great, proven standard of living. Don't waste time on developing a mountain side. Circumnavigate it and head straight to the already established city on the leeward side on the shiny river bank.
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Old 12-23-2017, 10:55 AM
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Seriously? Nothing will change here...EVER. And no one cares.

Focus on GTFO of here. Keep moving up. That right there constitutes our change.
Ya, I know, don't know what I was thinking?

Unfortunately you are 10000% correct!

My new year's resolution is to get out!
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