Skywest v2.0
11-24-2017, 04:39 AM
#9371
Ich bin Pilot von Beruf
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: CRJ Kapitän
Posts: 615
This troll blabbers on for the sake of blabbering on, I feel.
11-24-2017, 07:09 AM
#9372
Ich bin Pilot von Beruf
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: CRJ Kapitän
Posts: 615
"IT" shows its sad, pathetic self once again. "IT" believes that it can influence SkyWest pilot opinion to support a viewpoint that favors the value of its stock. "IT" should reexamine its life priorities and find something productive to do with its time....
When I wonder what "IT" looks like, this famous scene from a 1990 horror film creeps into my mind. Schönen Tag noch, "IT."
When I wonder what "IT" looks like, this famous scene from a 1990 horror film creeps into my mind. Schönen Tag noch, "IT."
11-24-2017, 07:25 AM
#9373
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 15
Well done sir. Truly next level trolling.
11-24-2017, 07:56 AM
#9376
Ich bin Pilot von Beruf
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: CRJ Kapitän
Posts: 615
11-24-2017, 08:00 AM
#9377
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 846
Skywest v2.0
Yep, just look on the surface and Endeavor looks good......until Delta shuts them down in a year or two. You want to get paid what you're "worth", then get your time and move on to a major or go Netjets or Flexjet. Funny thing is, many on here probably don't have squat for type ratings or turbine time, yet they think they're worth $100K a year plus. This industry is screwed.
This industry (or any industry for that matter) is not about what we are worth. It’s about what we negotiate. And for a new hire Skywest pilot, the best way to negotiate is with your feet. I see ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with a new hire pilot with no type ratings or turbine time getting $100k. If endeavor or someone else is willing to pay that, then more power to those pilots.
You should be happy for your fellow colleague.
No, people like me are NOT the reason regionals are dying out. It's because the industry is going through many changes and "regional" flying is going away. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
I take great pride in my job. I have 20 years left eligible to fly 121 and not sure if I'll stay here or move on. Either way, it's my business. For the ones who stay, that's their business and right too.
It's absolutely ridiculous for anyone to blame pilots for the decisions of management. BTW, I voted no on the TA too.
I take great pride in my job. I have 20 years left eligible to fly 121 and not sure if I'll stay here or move on. Either way, it's my business. For the ones who stay, that's their business and right too.
It's absolutely ridiculous for anyone to blame pilots for the decisions of management. BTW, I voted no on the TA too.
Yeah, it’s none of your business if this pilot wants to go to another regional and cite the better pay. I would say it’s absolutely ridiculous for anyone to blame pilots for making that decision, the only one that management can’t do anything about!
Our 5 year deal just isn't keeping up with a rapidly changing industry. (And no wonder management came to us early with such a long deal.)
I've no problem with someone doing what's best for themselves. If management can't pay enough to keep new pilots here it shows a problem with the pay scale that needs to be addressed.
I've no problem with someone doing what's best for themselves. If management can't pay enough to keep new pilots here it shows a problem with the pay scale that needs to be addressed.
The future of SkyWest is at risk now thanks to all those that voted yes believing they where being “good boys”, being satisfied with 1% and proudly helping the company save money by voting yes while drinking the koolaid sold by a management disconnected to the current Regional Airlines times. I care about the future and my job with Skywest and I have been here more than a decade and I am one of those that flown commercially for more than 20 years and have paid my dues many times over and I am angry and disappointed with all pilots that do not have the capacity to see the bigger picture adapt and understand what is really important and what really needs to be done at any given moment to survive in these times. Voting yes for a 5 year contract disconnected to the reality of the industry puts all our jobs and our company at risk. To survive and to stay competitive we need to be able to staff the Airline and for that it is critical that we pay the best and not the worst like what we have achieved.
Don’t say that to amcd! I’m still waiting on him to comment on this considering the new endeavor TA (which he poo-pooed) was ratified.
Last edited by Nevjets; 11-24-2017 at 08:29 AM.
11-24-2017, 08:50 AM
#9378
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: CR7
Posts: 267
I love that you guys have made Endeavor as some sort of poster child of excellence in the regional world. Endeavor is nothing but a tool for Delta to manipulate the regional model, and for some reason you guys have yet to figure this out. Endeavor gets to play by a different set of rules than any of the other regional feed flying Delta code, and you guys are doing exactly what Delta wants you to do.
Do you now claim that the same Delta is using Endevour to raise the cost for pilot’s att the Regional level? Why would Delta want more expensive Regional flying? You are wrong and you know it. You also know that everything you write is to back whatever management is doing at any given moment. You do not hold the pilot’s interests first and you prove it over and over. Your management that you so eaguer believe you support is disconnected with the current times and Chip and all other that are trying to maximize the profits by saving on crew salaries will very well taking this company down. The bigger we are the harder we fall and the only thing that I believe can take Skywest down is Staffing issues. If you do not see that in today’s Regional market then you are completely disconnected with reality. Claiming that we are painting Endevour as an ideal company has no substance or meaning and fills no purpose. Endevour TA is what Skywest will have to compete with and that is now reality. You will have no profit at all if you do not understand that you need pilot’s to produce that. Open your eyes. We are not against the company, on the contrary we care and would like to save it from dumb disconnected people that will if they continue put our jobs and Company in question.
11-24-2017, 12:05 PM
#9379
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 846
The pilots are locked into a five year contract, but the COMPANY is not. They can always offer up a raise if needed.
Most likely they'll be discussing that monday... how to maximize additional money directed at junior FO's while minimizing any associated raises to the more senior folks.
Most likely they'll be discussing that monday... how to maximize additional money directed at junior FO's while minimizing any associated raises to the more senior folks.
Sounds like management has the best of both worlds with this arrangement. They have pilots locked into a five year deal but get to change it on a whim to suit only the pilots it suits them to throw temporary bonuses.
So why do you guys continue to do this every time?
11-24-2017, 01:21 PM
#9380
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 443
I think there will be a bit of an uproar if they start offering crazy big new hire only bonuses with nothing for the pilots already on property since in June management was saying Endeavors bonuses don’t count and how they Skywest doesn’t want to do any type of bonus programs like that.
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