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That is a very logical perspective I can respect that. So there are no steps of discipline that are cumulative towards termination. If there is no number is the flip side that the company just as well could terminate on your first infraction? I they felt they wanted to could they? I doubt they would mind you , on just one infraction, but could they? Do you get any commuter hotels paid for like some other union regionals I have heard of.
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Right, like not wanting a scope clause until you need one. How has that worked out? Anyway, think of a contractual commuter policy as a set rule that each side knows ahead of time what each is required to do. No having to explain yourself to anyone after the fact and hope they aren’t having a constipation day. Commuter policy, you follow the rule, nothing happens, no explanations, life is good.
That is a very logical perspective I can respect that. So there are no steps of discipline that are cumulative towards termination. If there is no number is the flip side that the company just as well could terminate on your first infraction? I they felt they wanted to could they? I doubt they would mind you , on just one infraction, but could they? Do you get any commuter hotels paid for like some other union regionals I have heard of.
All Skywest employees are at-will employees. They can theoretically show up to work everyday for ten years and the very next day, let them go.
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Not trying to feed the fire here, my first post on APC, but this exactly! I was terminated... Well, "allowed to resign" for missing a commute. I did not miss a commute prior to that. They also questioned my sick calls that I had (3 legit calls in 8 months) stating I was unreliable. Kind of a bummer, I liked the SkyWest crews that I flew with but after that situation I came to realize real quick the importance of a commuter clause and or policy.
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And while SAPA has some very good people among it's ranks, it's leader doesn't fly and is out of touch with the rank and file and has but one key objective. When the VP of Ops says our president is the best he's worked with, that tells me we are not being adequately represented. The fact that management hated MM told me he was doing his job, and well!
With no policy, management can do what ever they want to the pilots.
Oh wait, they all ready do.....
And I've been here long enough to have seen it!
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There must be more to this story, I have missed a few commutes during my Skywest career, as long as I gave myself a couple options and it didn't happen too often, they handled it very well and even tried to positive space me if need be. I highly doubt they told you to resign for 1 missed commute. During probation I had 11 days missed and they told me good job.
SAPA guys were not all that happy about it, tried to fight it but the big wigs wanted me gone, or so I was told. Glad it worked out for you all those times though.
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There must be more to this story, I have missed a few commutes during my Skywest career, as long as I gave myself a couple options and it didn't happen too often, they handled it very well and even tried to positive space me if need be. I highly doubt they told you to resign for 1 missed commute. During probation I had 11 days missed and they told me good job.
He also said he had called in sick three times in the last 8 months. That seems to be the rest of the story.
Let me ask you this, how many flights is a couple of options? A couple sounds like two to me but is that really true? Will ALL chief pilots be ok with two options and no more? How much time before show is your second option supposed to arrive? Are you required to actively check weather a day or two ahead of time? Are you supposed to check for loads 24-36 hours ahead of time? Does commuter policy cover ground transportation and what are the unwritten rules for that? Will ALL cheif pilots rule uniformly for EVERYONE for all these questions?
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He also said he had called in sick three times in the last 8 months. That seems to be the rest of the story.
Let me ask you this, how many flights is a couple of options? A couple sounds like two to me but is that really true? Will ALL chief pilots be ok with two options and no more? How much time before show is your second option supposed to arrive? Are you required to actively check weather a day or two ahead of time? Are you supposed to check for loads 24-36 hours ahead of time? Does commuter policy cover ground transportation and what are the unwritten rules for that? Will ALL cheif pilots rule uniformly for EVERYONE for all these questions?
Let me ask you this, how many flights is a couple of options? A couple sounds like two to me but is that really true? Will ALL chief pilots be ok with two options and no more? How much time before show is your second option supposed to arrive? Are you required to actively check weather a day or two ahead of time? Are you supposed to check for loads 24-36 hours ahead of time? Does commuter policy cover ground transportation and what are the unwritten rules for that? Will ALL cheif pilots rule uniformly for EVERYONE for all these questions?
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Sorry about the termination. Probation?
I’ve had worse stats and give myself one flight typically.
Even flight attendants miss commutes.
I’ve had worse stats and give myself one flight typically.
Even flight attendants miss commutes.
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If anyone says they were “fired” there is more to the story.. last guys that were truly terminated was a stall and had multiple issues before that event.. if your saying you got “offered” to resign.. then you had other performance issues and were under 1 year at OO.. ask Sapa why we dont have a commuter clause... they insist were better off right now..
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If anyone says they were “fired” there is more to the story.. last guys that were truly terminated was a stall and had multiple issues before that event.. if your saying you got “offered” to resign.. then you had other performance issues and were under 1 year at OO.. ask Sapa why we dont have a commuter clause... they insist were better off right now..
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