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Old 11-08-2017, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
You could be a DEC on X year pay in ATL with travel, vacay, and 401k longevity but you'd rather start over at another regional? I get the angst, but that's a lot of money on the table if you don't get to a major asap.
Yes, many of us would rather start over at another regional. Not everyone thinks SKW is the bee's knees, nor are we willing to hold our noses to put up with the stench from Inc. Aside from that, if Endeavor does pass their TA, the difference in pay would be peanuts. Call it cutting off your nose to spite your face or call it sticking to your principles, I don't care. Over the years, I've built up a fairly successful side business, so I can afford to leave Inc's pittance on the table. If Inc really wants us, they can look at a 3-way integration with ASA, SKW, and XJT, and real recognized representation (doesn't have to be ALPA). Till then, we'll all keep bailing to greener pastures. May not be a major right away, but it sure is better than the bottom of an unrepresented list
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:40 AM
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Whats upgrade time running these days at Skywest?
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Whats upgrade time running these days at Skywest?
New hires can get it if they meet the time requirements.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
And you guys believe the 126 statement... jet all investor notes say “up to”... wish you guys the best of luck that other airlines struggle to staff while you guys stabilize your operation.. but long run INC doesn’t own those planes. We know how that goes...

Some guys do believe it. I never did, especially when the "investor notes" all saying 100.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
Actually they are right though. There’s only a difference of a couple dollars between starting over at Skywest or starting over at Endeavor. Upgrade time is just as short there as it is here.
Yup - I can see how that doesn't go quite as planned for INC.

Make almost the same at 9E, upgrade almost instantaneously too, fly only dual class equipment with a probably better schedule ....

This isnt as clear cut as one might think.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
Yes, many of us would rather start over at another regional. Not everyone thinks SKW is the bee's knees, nor are we willing to hold our noses to put up with the stench from Inc. Aside from that, if Endeavor does pass their TA, the difference in pay would be peanuts. Call it cutting off your nose to spite your face or call it sticking to your principles, I don't care. Over the years, I've built up a fairly successful side business, so I can afford to leave Inc's pittance on the table. If Inc really wants us, they can look at a 3-way integration with ASA, SKW, and XJT, and real recognized representation (doesn't have to be ALPA). Till then, we'll all keep bailing to greener pastures. May not be a major right away, but it sure is better than the bottom of an unrepresented list

It would only be a two way integration now. The XJT ISL of ~2200 pilots and the Skywest list. And any representation (or lack thereof) decisions would be decided by vote of all the pilots.
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Old 11-08-2017, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Whats upgrade time running these days at Skywest?
Most junior CA in DTW is a June 2016 hire. But as mentioned, if one has the time, you can get it sooner than that.
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Old 11-08-2017, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
Most junior CA in DTW is a June 2016 hire. But as mentioned, if one has the time, you can get it sooner than that.
Better check that again... awarded yesterday to under 2 months..
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Old 11-08-2017, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
Most junior CA in DTW is a June 2016 hire. But as mentioned, if one has the time, you can get it sooner than that.
DTW got awarded to a Feb 2017 hire
ATL got awarded to an Oct 2017 hire
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Old 11-11-2017, 02:45 PM
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What is the word on a real Atlanta base? Is Inc. waiting for the XJT base to close? Crew-room space in Atlanta is in short supply and I can't imagine them having a mixed Skywest/XJT crew-room. That would be an MMA event.
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