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11-02-2017, 12:59 PM

#9001

unlarge

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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb

I'm high 3700s with only 150hrs 121 SIC for perspective. so will upgrades drop off a cliff here in 2018?

It will never drop below 1000 hrs part 121 (or 500 hrs for prior military).
Some part 135/charter 91 hours qualify, but essentially it's hard requirement because it's not in company SOP but FARs §121.436

For prior part 121 folks, it will definitely drop significantly. It already happened once when in March award dropped to 9 months,
with a current grow and a lot of senior FOs bypassing for QOL and waiting for home base, I think no later than January it will basically be direct entry CA program for qualified new hires.

11-02-2017, 01:24 PM

#9002

TimetoClimb

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Originally Posted by unlarge

Just to be clear, I wasn't inferring they would allow FO's without 1000 hours 121 (or qualifying 135) to upgrade. By cliff I meant what point on the seniority list will effectively be able to hold CA, assuming they meet minimum qualifications. So the consensus is basically DEC in the near future...insane to think about. It'll take me and most of my classmates atleast a year more to even be qualified, I wonder what It will look like then.

11-02-2017, 02:00 PM

#9003

amcnd

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Originally Posted by Utah

Where can you see that? Or how do you know?

It’s true, i just confined it.. basically any NH with 1000 121 time and 2500tt will hold captain for the next 6 months i bet..

11-02-2017, 02:29 PM

#9004

word302

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Originally Posted by Utah

I call BS. Perhaps the new short course for current Crj pilots has been combined with upgrade.

Yeah I'm not buying it either. Plenty of people with their bid in for Hotlanta.

11-02-2017, 02:32 PM

#9005

rickair7777

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Quote:

Originally Posted by amcnd

It’s true, i just confined it.. basically any NH with 1000 121 time and 2500tt will hold captain for the next 6 months i bet..

Six month upgrade definitely has precedent... about ten years ago on the Bro.

11-02-2017, 02:33 PM

#9006

chitolin

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Position: E190 FO

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Quote:

Originally Posted by word302

Yeah I'm not buying it either. Plenty of people with their bid in for Hotlanta.

It was already proven to be a misunderstanding. The person is just taking the “short course” that TG wrote on “insight” a couple of days ago.

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11-02-2017, 02:43 PM

#9007

WesternSkies

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I haven't looked in a couple of days but I think I counted about 15 people bidding DTW/ATL/ANY before I started running into pilots with less than 2 years on property. I'm guessing it takes about 2 years to be qualified, so it follows that the award time is in free fall until it hits a qualified individual.
I can buy it.

11-02-2017, 02:43 PM

#9008

amcnd

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Originally Posted by chitolin

It was already proven to be a misunderstanding. The person is just taking the “short course” that TG wrote on “insight” a couple of days ago.

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No misunderstanding. From a instructor.. this morning a former 8 year ASA guy was awarded Upgrade to captain.. he is in systems class right now..

11-02-2017, 02:55 PM

#9009

calmwinds

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Originally Posted by WesternSkies

I don't think PANC made much sense for Horizon and with 4 destinations wouldn't make much sense for us.
Like a domicile in DAL with 2 gates and a handful of flights doesn't make sense.
But hey.

DAL is still just a rumor, isn’t it?

11-02-2017, 04:42 PM

#9010

GearUpHeadDown

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevjets

Good for him/her. They also get the longevity credit? I hope so. In fact, I hope all ASA pilots can do this if the want. It should just be offered to them, no questions asked.

No it shouldn’t.