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10-18-2017, 03:00 PM
#8851
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 12
I don’t understand this. Guys on reserve are not flying much. New hires are having a tough time getting 100 hours in 120 days. Is this just a source of cheaper labor? They should be required to be paid per the pilot pay scale.
10-18-2017, 04:07 PM
#8852
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Posts: 107
That might be the case on the ERJ side, but reserves are definitely not sitting around on the CRJ side. I haven't had a day where I haven't been assigned a trip or OBR in months.
10-18-2017, 06:38 PM
#8853
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 166
I have friends at JB that say they have a part 91 program. Apparently it started small and has grown into a sweet little deal for the part 91 pilots. They even started scheduling seniority list FO’s with part 91 (nonstandard) CA’s and it’s a total mess and liability.
10-18-2017, 07:47 PM
#8854
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,283
Will SKYW cremembers be required to ride on a pt91 flight crewed by a cadet and non seniority list capt?
10-18-2017, 08:49 PM
#8856
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,017
Yeah that's what you want to do, fly an airbus without standardization.
10-19-2017, 04:45 AM
#8857
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 516
"The revised Flight Ops Reposition Program (FORP) proposal is in the Proposed Policy section of the SAPA documents area. This replaces the policy passed by SAPA a few years ago and provides for a more robust program with additional protections to the pilot group. The new proposal is a vastly upgraded and improved version of the original policy.
Specifically it allows for a small cadre of retired captains and flight ops cadets who can hold a type rating, but not an ATP, to reposition aircraft under part 91 rules. The goal of the program is to:
Relieve pressure on revenue reserves, and by extension line holders in order to provide relief to the large number of block hours being flown, particularly those flights that are the less desirable and less efficient part 91 flights.
To provide flight hours and mentorship to selected cadets in order to bring them on line as Part 121 qualified First Officers.
To add another dimension of compliance to the FAA's mandate for pilot career mentorship.
SAPA is to continually monitor the program and to insure that the program provides some metric showing that these goals are having a measurable affect and the program will be under the purview of the PPM, changes to pay/scope etc will have to be approved by SAPA."
??????
Specifically it allows for a small cadre of retired captains and flight ops cadets who can hold a type rating, but not an ATP, to reposition aircraft under part 91 rules. The goal of the program is to:
Relieve pressure on revenue reserves, and by extension line holders in order to provide relief to the large number of block hours being flown, particularly those flights that are the less desirable and less efficient part 91 flights.
To provide flight hours and mentorship to selected cadets in order to bring them on line as Part 121 qualified First Officers.
To add another dimension of compliance to the FAA's mandate for pilot career mentorship.
SAPA is to continually monitor the program and to insure that the program provides some metric showing that these goals are having a measurable affect and the program will be under the purview of the PPM, changes to pay/scope etc will have to be approved by SAPA."
??????
So glad this is what SAPA is focusing their energy on instead of meaningful compensation increases and policy changes that benefit the pilot group as a whole. This and allowing "part-time" pilots. What a joke. Not sure which is more sad, this? or the fact that 99% of SkyWest pilots couldn't care less about the fact they are being completely sold out by their "representation"
When are the SkyWest pilots going to wake up, and say enough is enough with this nonsense?
I used to have some pride about the company and people I worked with. Now I'm mostly embarrassed at the level of apathy.
10-19-2017, 06:52 AM
#8859
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: the right side
Posts: 1,378
Exactly, from the 9E side, I'd say there's no way that the Compass 175s end up with us. They'll be at your shop, maybe in exchange for the CR7/9 that Delta owns that you guys fly.
Only way that 175s make sense at 9E, is if there is a Delta order for 175SC type airplanes coming to replace the G7 CR7s
Only way that 175s make sense at 9E, is if there is a Delta order for 175SC type airplanes coming to replace the G7 CR7s
10-19-2017, 09:38 AM
#8860
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 12
The system is broken if line guys are complaining about not being able to drop trips and reserve guys are complaining about not flying enough. And then this Part 91 crap comes up.
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