amcnd

Were close to the top... Endeavor hasn’t passed there TA yet.. I will compare W2’s any time...

Duesenflieger

Exactly. I am on track to making $60k this year as an FO, and I checked to see what I would make as a senior ERJ FO, and I would make close to $65k - $70k year 3...not including bonuses. I will be upgrading though. I am thankful that I am at SkyWest and not at a burning dumpster fire like Endeavor.

Nevjets

I don't bring the topic up unless it's relevant to the conversation at the time. But you have a logical fallacy in your statement about lower pay and expansion. They don't have to go hand in hand. Many regionals have both. Just look at endeavor as the latest example. It's not like only Skywest has short upgrades either. I do agree that Skywest airlines is the best run regional, financial and operational. Which is why I feel you can do relatively better than what you have. Lastly, a union is not just about a contract and pay rates and work rules. That's like number three on the list. Just looking that the safety and security aspect alone should be enough for all airline pilots to want to contribute. Not to mention all the other things pilot unions do in advocacy, medical, representation, etc.




Not really. You are probably in the middle. Air Wisconsin, endeavor (it's going to pass overwhelmingly), and even xjt have better contracts and better overall total compensation/work rule combination. That's just off the top of my head. Maybe piedmont or others have it better, especially considering their finite bonuses. I mean, just look at your abismal (that's been too kind!) vacation accrual? That alone tells me you may be getting a big paycheck but at the expense of days off (vacation). This is why I say a true comparison is to take total compensation and divide it by block hours flown. This will give you a figure that takes both QOL and pay into consideration. And then you can compare with others when by looking at the ratio of this figure with your pay rate.

sn00p

He is being sarcastic FYI.

RemoveB4Flight

Would you be willing to compare W2s with Endeavor after their TA passes? (it will pass)
What about with Air Wisconsin?
You are delusional if you honestly believe we are the at the top. We just passed a TA and we are still not the highest paid. In a few short months we will be right in the middle of the pack or worse.

AboveMins

Might as well throw in benefit plans as well. I know my 401k match and Defined Contribution plans, along with the medical and LTD offered by my union (gasp!) carrier put the skywest plans to shame.

Jonneaux

Well then, we are all very glad that you are there and not here.

I suspect that many are on here bashing SkyWest because they are miserable where they are and resent that we are not.

DasSchwerin

We are just rolling the bonus into pay rates. It's not a raise. It's just converting bonus money into hard pay rates. So I'm not sure you want to compare W2 with an endeavor pilot. I hope this puts pressure on Skywest to raise pay. You guys deserve more.

AboveMins

Ignorance is bliss, my friend.

Duesenflieger

Yep. Those regionals are burning dumpster fires. Especially XJT.