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Old 09-19-2017, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
ATL will go Jr, and you can do “soft landings” huge for XJT folks.. upgrade will crash to under a year by spring (my prediction) ive been alpa and have watched OO carefully with the union deal.. i have not seen one shady thing happen to a pilot... except DD and that was a personal conflict between 2 people that got resolved... (and i saw him driving a Porsche, so it couldn’t have been that bad for him)
Thanks for your input! You're right about the soft landing, it's definitely a factor am weighing among others. Hard to not consider PSA with that flow and short upgrade as well. I do rather the SKYWEST bases though. Am conflicted to say the least. They seam like two pretty descent gigs.
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
ATL will go Jr, and you can do “soft landings” huge for XJT folks.. upgrade will crash to under a year by spring (my prediction) ive been alpa and have watched OO carefully with the union deal.. i have not seen one shady thing happen to a pilot... except DD and that was a personal conflict between 2 people that got resolved... (and i saw him driving a Porsche, so it couldn’t have been that bad for him)
There are things which happen that you might not hear about, but in my experience as long as you make a good-faith effort to be a good employee and don't lie to them, you'll still have a job. SAPA does actually help with issues like that.
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mach242
Thanks for your input! You're right about the soft landing, it's definitely a factor am weighing among others. Hard to not consider PSA with that flow and short upgrade as well. I do rather the SKYWEST bases though. Am conflicted to say the least. They seam like two pretty descent gigs.
Endeavor is also an option worth considering with their ATL expansion.
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:34 PM
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I’m surprised not more ASA guys are taking the “soft landings”.. I can see why they may not want to as we (OO) look like the bad guys.. But reality is upgrades are going to crash to under a year. And ATL/DTW will be Jr.. with soft landings you could be on 10 year pay as a Captain in a year.. (assuming your a 8 year ASA pilot)...
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Old 09-20-2017, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
I’m surprised not more ASA guys are taking the “soft landings”.. I can see why they may not want to as we (OO) look like the bad guys.. But reality is upgrades are going to crash to under a year. And ATL/DTW will be Jr.. with soft landings you could be on 10 year pay as a Captain in a year.. (assuming your a 8 year ASA pilot)...
I think you answered your own question. I'm sure most just don't want to work for the company that shut them down. I don't blame them.
They also have many other options that are equal or better. Many other regionals are offering massive sign on and retention bonuses with a flow agreement to fall back on.
I imagine a lot of ASA guys are moving on to majors and LCCs as well which is obviously better than the soft landings offer.
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Old 09-20-2017, 03:57 AM
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I think you answered your own question. I'm sure most just don't want to work for the company that shut them down. I don't blame them.
They also have many other options that are equal or better. Many other regionals are offering massive sign on and retention bonuses with a flow agreement to fall back on.
I imagine a lot of ASA guys are moving on to majors and LCCs as well which is obviously better than the soft landings offer.
Yeah - it will be interesting. It least this is a nice test whether soft landing actually works as intended.
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Old 09-20-2017, 05:55 AM
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DVR is up.. looks like 50 upgrades or so next month!
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Old 09-20-2017, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
I think you answered your own question. I'm sure most just don't want to work for the company that shut them down. I don't blame them.
They also have many other options that are equal or better. Many other regionals are offering massive sign on and retention bonuses with a flow agreement to fall back on.
I imagine a lot of ASA guys are moving on to majors and LCCs as well which is obviously better than the soft landings offer.
Anybody who can of course move on to larger pastures, should. But for some senior folks who are too old, tired, skeletons, etc soft landings might be a financial godsend, relatively speaking. I'll give SKW credit for that, if they just wanted to poach FO's from other regionals they could have capped it at 2-3 years.
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Old 09-20-2017, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Anybody who can of course move on to larger pastures, should. But for some senior folks who are too old, tired, skeletons, etc soft landings might be a financial godsend, relatively speaking. I'll give SKW credit for that, if they just wanted to poach FO's from other regionals they could have capped it at 2-3 years.
There are some isolated situations where soft landing might be an individuals only good option, but the majority have better options available.

Even with some skeletons you can get yourself into a LCC which will pay more by 3 years than Skywest even with soft landing starting you at 10 years on the pay scale.

The guys only 2 or less years from retirement would benefit the most from the massive sign on bonuses from other regionals.

I only see a small niche for the soft landing with the current demand for pilots.
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:43 AM
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Anyone catch this quote from InSight:

"InFlight Standards has been busy preparing the necessary information for the additional ERJ 175 aircraft we will be operating in the AS system soon. These aircraft will have slight differences in the cabin which will be communicated through an issued Alert Bulletin."

Hopefully they are not talking about the QX aircraft we were rumored to be getting toward the end of this year.
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