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Old 09-14-2017, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by N1234
Right on. Following the EV / 9E shuffle, there are another 15 RJs in the 70 seater catgeory up for grabs with DL.

The other one to watch will be G7. I believe their DL contract is up soon and they claim 22 700's and 7 900's in their DL fleet.

That makes for a total of 44 additional airframes that I am sure are being shopped around between OO, E9 and YX. depending on the certificate they will be 900 lights or 175CS.
Who is E9? And the G7 700s are owned by Delta, read between the lines all you want there. G7 owns their 900s
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Old 09-14-2017, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
Who is E9? And the G7 700s are owned by Delta, read between the lines all you want there. G7 owns their 900s
sorry - meant 9E.

And yes, the G7 700 are owned by DL. The point is that the CPA is coming up. So, they can either move those 700 to another regional like 9E or OO - or depending on how many cycles the 700 have, they may decide to sell them to a Chinese operator and sign some new 175CS with OO or YX.

Customer preference is clearly with the 175. Unless you get 900 for free I don't see why anyone would buy new 900s anymor
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Old 09-14-2017, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX2MSP
The SLC crews might cry enough and make SGU give them a 175 base too. God forbid the SLC crews get downsized to what that base should actually be..

How dare you talk about the mother ship like that! You shall pay for your insolence! Nothing but 5:59 outstation sits for you!
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Old 09-14-2017, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
Lol.

But in all seriousness, SkyWest did not put in a bid for KCEC. Only Great Lakes and Boutique did.

SkyWest did put in bids for Decatur, IL; North Platte, NE; Kearney, NE; Liberal, KS; and Scottsbluff, NE.
I'm honestly curious how OO can make money on these routes with jets when KS couldn't with props.
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
LOL... Uber investors who buy stock in subcontractor airlines? I wouldn't let them anywhere near my investments.

SKYW is up nearly 300% since the low in 2015. What sort of returns have your picks generated since then?
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
SKYW is up nearly 300% since the low in 2015. What sort of returns have your picks generated since then?
LOL, tell that to the folks who lost their asses on skywest stock back in 2001 and 2008. Easy come, easy go, but slow and steady wins the race. I've been averaging about 12% returns over the past decade, including the downturn. I'll give the puppeteers in SGU credit though, they've got labor locked down, especially when they feed you Kool-Aid so good that you're willing to leave money on the table.
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
How dare you talk about the mother ship like that! You shall pay for your insolence! Nothing but 5:59 outstation sits for you!
You joke but those are on pairings these days...
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
LOL, tell that to the folks who lost their asses on skywest stock back in 2001 and 2008.
The entire market fell those years. Try again Jordan Belfort.
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DenainaPilot
I'm honestly curious how OO can make money on these routes with jets when KS couldn't with props.
Sometimes they can, sometimes they can't (i.e. PUB)
People really don't like flying on T-Props, and then you add on poor performance, poor service and a high cancellation rate like GLA had in the midwest and the traveling public will drive or drive to a bigger airport.

Add in OO has all of United's network to connect people in Denver, like Envoy has all of American's network in DFW.
There is a staggering difference in the number of people that drive to GCK to connect through DFW relative to the number of people in Dodge City that simply want to go to Denver.

There were very well populated areas with very poor ridership simply due to GLA. Envoy has boosted ridership in some of these areas to unimaginable levels.
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Old 09-16-2017, 06:15 AM
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Reliability of the air service has a huge impact. Being from Nebraska, those towns can support air service but people don't use it because it is so unreliable. If skywest were to do it, I would imagine people would use the service. Check out devils lake, we were full going out of there the other day.
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