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Old 08-31-2017, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
Soft landing 2.0 approved. Great. One more thing to help them fill classes and prolong our time on this worthless pay package.
The cherry on top would be if they start talking about part time pilots again. Oh wait...
Class this week of 48 started before this was announced.. so don't think there is a panic yet...
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Old 08-31-2017, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Soft Landing 2.0 IS APPROVED!

I hope this positive trend of pilots getting paid for their experience continues across our industry!
The 20-year pay scale that has plagued our industry for decades by restricting a free market for pilots is hopefully coming to an end everywhere!
This is a joke right? Nobody seriously believes this will be adopted industry wide (outside of the regionals) do they?

I'll eat my words once this is common practice at the majors. But until then this is just a scheme for regionals to poach from other regionals. Nothing more than another giveaway of leverage that only benefits new hires, and a small sub-group of pilots already on property.

Where is the reward for the pilots who were smart and did their research and came to SkyWest FIRST?!?! as opposed to rewarding the regional hoppers who got burned chasing the quick upgrade.
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Old 08-31-2017, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ZipperTie
After a short browse on swol, I didn't find any info on medical leave of absence.

Any one able to point me in the right direction on info about the process? Not related to my medical cert and didn't want to ask chief pilot yet because it hasn't been confirmed, but I might schedule a shoulder surgery.
SWOL>My Stuff>Leave of Absence

Pretty painless process.
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Old 08-31-2017, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SMACFUM
Where is the reward for the pilots who were smart and did their research and came to SkyWest FIRST?!?! as opposed to rewarding the regional hoppers who got burned chasing the quick upgrade.

Not everyone that started at another regional is a hopper chasing a quick upgrade. And on top of that, some that take advantage of this may have been burned by Skywest to begin with.
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Old 08-31-2017, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
SWOL>My Stuff>Leave of Absence

Pretty painless process.
Use FMLA for something like that. That way it can't count against your reliability or anything else.
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Old 08-31-2017, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Class this week of 48 started before this was announced.. so don't think there is a panic yet...
They may not be feeling it severely yet but they will. Every other regional is, and Skywest is not immune to it. Unless SAPA keeps giving them a life raft.
We are hiring at bare minimums. Many times new hires need to log their sim time just to qualify.
If the 1500 rule isn't changed and if we wouldn't give them things like soft landing 2.0 and part time pilots, Skywest would soon be noticing it in the hiring department.
I guess the only thing I like about the new pay package is that it is so bad that it might cause people not to come here.
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Old 08-31-2017, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
Not everyone that started at another regional is a hopper chasing a quick upgrade. And on top of that, some that take advantage of this may have been burned by Skywest to begin with.
Yes. Granted. No argument on that. However my larger point still stands. The company kool-aid pedallers pushing this the hardest, sell it as some monumental paradigm shift in the airline industry. That's a load of BS

"the pilots that may have been burned by SkyWest to begin with"
If you are referring to ASA/XJET. I have absolutely no problem with that whatsoever. Hell, although I don't claim to be an expert on SLIs, I'm all in favor of merging the lists completely. Should have been done long ago.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:01 PM
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They may not be feeling it severely yet but they will.
Must be hedging their bets.

https://www.afap.org.au/pilot-jobs/p...rst%20Officers
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
They may not be feeling it severely yet but they will. Every other regional is, and Skywest is not immune to it. Unless SAPA keeps giving them a life raft.
We are hiring at bare minimums. Many times new hires need to log their sim time just to qualify.
If the 1500 rule isn't changed and if we wouldn't give them things like soft landing 2.0 and part time pilots, Skywest would soon be noticing it in the hiring department.
I guess the only thing I like about the new pay package is that it is so bad that it might cause people not to come here.
I think it's true that we do lose a few candidates that would be here, if the pay was higher. But, that being said, they're doing a good job still hiring. Money hasn't been the big driving factor for people to come here. If we can fill classes on $36.50/hr just fine, we won't have problems at $37.25/hr. We all know why people come here. QOL, bases, and historic stability.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:34 PM
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What QOL?

The good reputation is only gonna last so long. This place has changed tremendously and soon they will all know.

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