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Old 08-26-2017, 01:19 PM
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I have my own normal procedures checklist printed and laminated. Which I will have to insure is up to date. The company stated one of the reasons was the difficulty of printing and distributing updated checklists to all the planes in an orderly way. How about you don't do it very often, seriously, updating checklist too often has it's own safety issues.

I know I will misplace, leave my personal checklist in another aircraft, at some point. Therefore, it won't be long before I will be forced to use the electronic version and have a good enough safety incident to file an ASAP. So, please, by whatever means necessary provide feedback to chief pilots, administration, FAA personnel, or file ASAP reports. It's fine to have a backup electronic checklist on the EFB, but it is beyond ridiculous to not have a paper copy that stays in each plane. I don't think management realizes how much legal jeopardy they are putting themselves in. Are we not required to have a taxi diagram open while taxiing? How is this reasonably possible if we have to switch over to a different page for a checklist? Obviously, we pilots will get nailed initially for any incident, but I can't see how this would not circle back on the company at some point. It can't be worth the ($5,000?) that is saved every year on not printing checklists. Talk about penny wise and pound foolish.
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Old 08-26-2017, 01:23 PM
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Here's an idea to cut costs... Do what every single mainline airline does (as does the 175) and print one checklist per plane.

Have you ever had 2 checklists out at a time? It's ridiculous to have 2

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Old 08-26-2017, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Heard they are looking into it.. saftey department... maybe will hear something next week..
There was a meeting in SGU yesterday. I guess we will see what happens.
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Old 08-26-2017, 03:18 PM
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It's fine .
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Old 08-26-2017, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Here's an idea to cut costs... Do what every single mainline airline does (as does the 175) and print one checklist per plane.

Have you ever had 2 checklists out at a time? It's ridiculous to have 2

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True, look at Boeing. There's a checklist "slot" on top center instrument panel. All you need is one.
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Old 08-27-2017, 09:01 AM
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Just curious if there is a concerted effort to submit ASAPs about the lack of paper checklist or are we just accepting it as the way it is going to be from here on? I can get behind filling out ASAP's, if there is an end game in sight...

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Old 08-27-2017, 09:02 AM
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Water bottle event of 2015 #neverforget

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Old 08-27-2017, 09:06 AM
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#waterbottlestrong
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Old 08-27-2017, 09:18 AM
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Bottle to throttle change from 8 to 12. SHTF. Changed back real quick.
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Old 08-27-2017, 02:09 PM
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The company stated one of the reasons was the difficulty of printing and distributing updated checklists to all the planes in an orderly way. How about you don't do it very often, seriously, updating checklist too often has it's own safety issues.
FltOps dept is really dropping the ball on this, the last checklist just removed was in for a year.
How about this, put out a FOIB> new checklist, print and carry or use electronic until all A/C checklist have been updated.
Problem solved.
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