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Old 08-01-2017, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MidnightHauler
I flew with a captain a couple of weeks ago who supposedly talked to a few big wigs in management about new 900s. Bombardier has around 30-40 new airplanes sitting around that nobody wants and they're willing to sell them for a song and a dance. We'll see how this rumor turns out.
Anyone who believes that seriously needs help. They can make the 900's but to say they have 30-40 new planes just sitting is crazy. They don't even have room to park 30 planes at the plant.

Those rumors where spread to get jr guys to vote yes and it worked. Every sapa rep that promised this growth for a passing package should resign their position if it doesn't actually happen.
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Old 08-01-2017, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MidnightHauler
I flew with a captain a couple of weeks ago who supposedly talked to a few big wigs in management about new 900s. Bombardier has around 30-40 new airplanes sitting around that nobody wants and they're willing to sell them for a song and a dance. We'll see how this rumor turns out.

There not planes sitting around waiting for a buyer.

No OEM is building aircraft to stock. They are generally build to order.

Bombardier may be desperate however to keep the production line going by selling some new 900 for marginal cost.

Don't expect a sizable number of new planes before late 2018 if there will be an order for new equipment.
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Old 08-01-2017, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Is offline
Anyone who believes that seriously needs help. They can make the 900's but to say they have 30-40 new planes just sitting is crazy. They don't even have room to park 30 planes at the plant.

Those rumors where spread to get jr guys to vote yes and it worked. Every sapa rep that promised this growth for a passing package should resign their position if it doesn't actually happen.
Especially considering that those same SAPA reps are still spreading those rumors. I've seen texts sent by SAPA reps to some captains that I fly with and the claims are seemingly outrageous. We'll see whether they happen or not, but I have a feeling it was all smoke and mirrors to get junior pilots and lifers to vote yes. Also has anyone ever considered that after XJT ceases to exist, someone will be undertaking their CRJ 900 flying? Perhaps SkyWest will be obtaining those 30 aircraft due to XJT's demise.
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Old 08-01-2017, 09:52 AM
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Bull-honky
Montreal may not be *kicking out* the commercial airframes but they sure as heck didn't build a single 900 without a home.

CRJ900 First half of 2017:
Delivered 11 CRJ 900 airframes
New CRJ 900 orders = 10
Backlog still to be produced = 25

Bombardier is a public company with all of this information reported to the SEC.
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Old 08-01-2017, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Is offline
Anyone who believes that seriously needs help. They can make the 900's but to say they have 30-40 new planes just sitting is crazy. They don't even have room to park 30 planes at the plant.

Those rumors where spread to get jr guys to vote yes and it worked. Every sapa rep that promised this growth for a passing package should resign their position if it doesn't actually happen.
I voted NO on the TA and new airplanes had nothing to do with my decision.
The Canadian government had to bail them out similar to the way our's bailed out General Motors years ago. Several orders were cancelled as production was finalized on the new airplanes. Many regional airlines are switching to 175s and getting away from new CRJs.
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Old 08-01-2017, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
You are the rumor king...fill me in on all the details how this is all going to pan out. Don't deflect with dumb responses like this one.
Ask dumb questions you get dumb responses bud.

PM and I'm willing to spill what I know.
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Old 08-01-2017, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Is offline
Anyone who believes that seriously needs help. They can make the 900's but to say they have 30-40 new planes just sitting is crazy. They don't even have room to park 30 planes at the plant.

Those rumors where spread to get jr guys to vote yes and it worked. Every sapa rep that promised this growth for a passing package should resign their position if it doesn't actually happen.
Rumors were spread to get jr guys to vote yes? Many who voted yes are senior guys because of the higher 401K contribution. Over 700 pilots didn't vote at all, which is ridiculous in itself.
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Old 08-01-2017, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
Wasn't a dumb question at all..nice try at deflecting.
Where else would we get them from then?
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Old 08-01-2017, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
Well, you never once stated if these are used or new airplanes you are hearing about. This is not difficult, nor a dumb question.
Simmer down bud.

We just need them to start rolling out announcements soon.
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Old 08-01-2017, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
People are not wired to cut sunk costs and run. Getting the 175 program up and running was probably really expensive. My money would be that they limp into the autumn reduced schedule and figure things out.
Because this is aviation...Horizon is probably the best place to go right now to be at the tip of whatever they announce the day after tomorrow.
Seems like regionals that look the most bleak transform into "brah, upgradez "
Originally Posted by sleepy1456
So true.

Filler.
Agreed. Horizon isn't going to kill their 175 program unless they want to kill one of the few recruiting tools that they have.
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