Originally Posted by jtsastre

I have to chime in.

I don't understand the attitude of these new hires. Do these young guys and gals have no lives (spouse, girl/boyfriend, kids, etc.)? Someone needs to show them some perspective. Life isn't all about flying. This is a job and if all you do is this, you'll look back later in life and see you never truly lived.

I was a young buck once wanting to build time fast, but I realized spending time with family and friends is what values my time, not spending time in a plane all day talking about contracts. This was all during a time when pay was low and pilots were in surplus. Now these guys have an insane amount of opportunities at hand AND better pay, and they're complaining about it. What's the fricking rush? Enjoy the now.

Originally Posted by tcco94

Yup, winner.



I rushed my college and flight instructing as fast as I could to get to an airline. I think that's smart for people, get in, build seniority and get what you want.



I wouldn't be happy if I was in DTW right now just flying hours as much as possible. Once I got through training I realized I gotta enjoy this at some point. That's why I choose QOL over hours. I get it for people that want to fly hours as quickly as they can. Go to DTW then and do it. Nobody stopping you....but when people complain they want movement in their home domicile OR get transfered in to sit reserve even longer? Like seriously? What is it people expect. I don't get it. They act like other airlines operate differently too.



Enjoy the ride and stop setting expectations in your mind. Once something goes different from what you were "expecting" you become unhappy and then no fun to fly with. That's how I view my work here. Certainly sucks not getting called some days on reserve in my pad but OH WELL. It could be worse.

Originally Posted by nopantsILS

That pile will make 10x the pilot out of these 1,000 hour champions. You should see the lack of energy management and decent planning demonstrated by many of the Cessna to 175 crew. Not to mention shut off the AT and enjoy the show.......

Originally Posted by JKSees

My personal situation is different, I have all my hours from the military and am just getting current and proficient in a 121 environment and was hoping to spend some time doing it out Seattle for a few years in a nice airplane. SkyWest works for me personally.

However, my point was to express the general feeling of many of the new hires I know. They are all starting to get a sense that things are not moving like the recruiters/interviewers said they would. Its not entitlement, simply recognition that opportunities elsewhere exist and their priority is to fly and build hours, next priority is pay. If OO isn't doing either why would they stay? Their career effectively grinds to a halt and they remain broke in the mean time. Some of these dudes are so poor I had to buy them their six pack on Friday nights in ground school. Add on top of that the debt from their aviation degrees etc. If SkyWest is really just stockpiling pilots just to sit them, thats not right, at least not without being up front about it, and people should leave. I am sure that if the recruiters had told them they were stockpiling pilots they would have looked elsewhere. Like somewhere where they were short pilots and were going to fly. Was it unreasonable to assume that SkyWests aggressive hiring meant that they actually needed them to be pilots?

And its not about "doing your research". Their is so much info out their it is impossible to know whats correct. Add on top of that regional recruiters/interviewers are apparently something akin to a used car salesmen. Its very confusing for someone new that is trying to get it all sorted and just make the decision that is right for them. In my interview I was told they "needed" ERJ pilots. I figured that meant thats where the flying was at. As of now it appears that is definitely not the case. But I guess time will tell.

I don't blame anyone for not wanting to fly the CRJ. Things a pile.

But my point still stands, if guys sit for too long, they are going to start taking the cash bonuses elsewhere at airlines that fly them just to survive and keep their career moving forward.

lighten up.

Originally Posted by word302

While I think the guy's a complete tool, the CRJ is just an airplane. You can actually get yourself out of trouble much easier in it.

Originally Posted by nopantsILS

You have to realize you're in trouble before you get out of it. That's where the issue is.

Originally Posted by word302

Well that's a given. I'm arguing the fact that the CRJ is somehow going to make you a better pilot. I disagree. Energy management is much easier in the CRJ.

Originally Posted by word302

Well that's a given. I'm arguing the fact that the CRJ is somehow going to make you a better pilot. I disagree. Energy management is much easier in the CRJ.