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05-22-2017, 10:12 AM
#7381
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 166
New FO with a few reserve questions if someone has time to answer.
I'm trying to figure out when a person sitting reserve is most vulnerable to getting called vs not.
I am about to start 6 days straight of reserve. On day 1 there are 2 of us with 6 days of availability. But since 4 day pairings seem to be the max in the ERJ, can I assume that everyone with 4 and 5 days available are also in my "bucket"?. If so, are they likely to call the 4 day people first, then the 5 day guy before they burn a guy with 6 days left?
So are you most vulnerable when you have 2-4 days available on reserve?
I'm not trying to break any rules here and I certainly want to do my "time" but seriously there are like 50 FO's at any given moment sitting reserve in ORD on the ERJ right now. Seems abhorrent to pull people away from their families so they can just sit there with their thumbs stuck where the sun don't shine with no chance of ever flying. Buddies from my class have been there 3 weeks already and haven't flown once. If I'd known I would have just stayed in the Air Force, where sitting around wasting life is the MO. At least I would have been making 3x more money for getting my thumb dirty.
I'm trying to figure out when a person sitting reserve is most vulnerable to getting called vs not.
I am about to start 6 days straight of reserve. On day 1 there are 2 of us with 6 days of availability. But since 4 day pairings seem to be the max in the ERJ, can I assume that everyone with 4 and 5 days available are also in my "bucket"?. If so, are they likely to call the 4 day people first, then the 5 day guy before they burn a guy with 6 days left?
So are you most vulnerable when you have 2-4 days available on reserve?
I'm not trying to break any rules here and I certainly want to do my "time" but seriously there are like 50 FO's at any given moment sitting reserve in ORD on the ERJ right now. Seems abhorrent to pull people away from their families so they can just sit there with their thumbs stuck where the sun don't shine with no chance of ever flying. Buddies from my class have been there 3 weeks already and haven't flown once. If I'd known I would have just stayed in the Air Force, where sitting around wasting life is the MO. At least I would have been making 3x more money for getting my thumb dirty.
A few things to add:
Just because you're deep in a 6 day bucket doesn't mean you cant be called. You might be read meat a few days out in the 2 or 3 day lineup. Say they toss a trip like this on your schedule all the sudden you can find yourself moving from the 6 day bucket to the 4 or 3 day bucket in a hurry. OBR is a possibility as well. Keep in mind that pilots still on IOE show up as reserves, at least a class worth... maybe more. Is reserve even more than one bidding month right now? We all get that it blows but you just have to do it.
Most of the chiefs are pretty pro pilot, I still wouldn't want my first interaction to be discussing why I was out of position for a callout during the first year. They do fire pilots for things like that, SKW does not like liars.
05-22-2017, 10:16 AM
#7382
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,464
Lol reserve on the 175 isn't a month. It's over a year.
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05-22-2017, 10:19 AM
#7383
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Downward Dog
Posts: 1,875
I'd hate to see guys commuting home on a day off because they haven't read the ppm.
05-22-2017, 10:26 AM
#7384
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 166
Check your info CA Happy. I'm a transistioning CA with a new hire sim partner. Finished IOE in April and the newb has a line in June. I'll have to double check my calendar but that doesn't seem like over a year.
05-22-2017, 10:31 AM
#7385
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,464
My bad. It was over a year just a little while ago but I guess ord finally got some lines.
Hence the 10 month upgrade. All the 175 fos couldn't get 1000 121 if they tried.
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Hence the 10 month upgrade. All the 175 fos couldn't get 1000 121 if they tried.
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05-22-2017, 10:43 AM
#7386
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 166
Now this is true. It's pretty common to fly with FO's who could be lineholding CA's on the CRJ if they had the time. Many don't help their own cause (live in base and bid reserve) others just don't seem to give a rip, some are just delusional and think a major is going to pluck them up from the right seat with 1,200tt and an RATP.
05-22-2017, 10:49 AM
#7387
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Downward Dog
Posts: 1,875
175s in MSP. 
05-22-2017, 10:59 AM
#7388
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,464
Now this is true. It's pretty common to fly with FO's who could be lineholding CA's on the CRJ if they had the time. Many don't help their own cause (live in base and bid reserve) others just don't seem to give a rip, some are just delusional and think a major is going to pluck them up from the right seat with 1,200tt and an RATP.
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05-22-2017, 11:16 AM
#7389
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 166
Grapevine is in overdrive lately!
Apparently on the latest SAPA conference call they vetted the rumor that the company has a deal in place to grow the airline by 100 airplanes....as long as we agree to whatever pay deal they're about to shove down our throats.
Apparently on the latest SAPA conference call they vetted the rumor that the company has a deal in place to grow the airline by 100 airplanes....as long as we agree to whatever pay deal they're about to shove down our throats.
05-22-2017, 12:19 PM
#7390
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 122
It's a simple explanation that they over hired for a variety of reasons. You name it, none other than just being competitive.
... and now rumors are flying due to too many 175 FOs just sitting in ORD. That's it, I think if anything, it's just an abrasive strategy.
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