CaptSwift

They update the DOH to the second day of Indoc. At least they did for us.

You should have your United benefits now, in Indoc. Even without your ID and KCM you should be able to reference the travel manual to use them. Jumpseat when you get your ID.

Student01

A DEN base question...

Assuming it's around for the long hall with United...CRJ-200s are going away, CRJ-700s are slowly going away, and E175s are increasing.
Am I right?

How long for a new hire to hold DEN on the E175? Pointless to say anything on CRJ since they are going away and wanting the DEN base.

Half wing

Crj-200's are going away in Denver? First I heard that.

N1234

They are not - CRJ 200 will be around for much longer than most people realize.

I suspect they will outlive the 700 and maybe even 900 by many years ....

tcco94

Pretty sure the 700 reduction already happened a few months back. They still have them and people are actually still getting in on the CRJ. Just a few months ago like 10 or so transfered in. The list is long though.

If you want DEN, I'd just go 175. Pretty sure it's going to be a long wait either jet you pick and the 175 should be around longer there where as the CRJ you're just taking a gamble on if we get more or less UAL contracts in the future.

Everyday a new rumor comes up but the fact is nobody can predict what will happen next month or even 6 months from now. Look at SFO. CRJ 6 months ago was fast to hold a line, now they cut it almost in half this month? Who can predict any of this?

If you want DEN or West coast your best bet is the 175 right now. That looks like it won't change.

Student01

I'm sorry I thought all the <50 seaters were leaving per United?

Student01

United is going all E-Jets and I don't think the United/SkyWest contract is going anywhere.
Thanks for the help!

TogaParty

Solo yet?
Things will look vastly different by the time you join the regionals. I'd focus more on your flight training vs. how long to hold a line in Denver right now.

zondaracer

No, they aren't leaving. United did say that they wanted to shrink 50 seat fleet in half, but then they hired this guy from AA named Kirby who likes regionals and i haven't heard much more about 50 seat planes going away. 50 seat fleet is getting shifted around. Air Wisconsin (who has 65 CRJ200s all in AA colors) just signed a contract with United for 50 planes plus 15 options (so basically they will repaint those planes into UA colors). Eventually, one day, all the E145s and CRJ200s will be too old to keep flying, and they won't be built anymore so who knows what the regional landscape will look like when those planes start getting mothballed.

Now step away from the keyboard and focus on flying. In two years, start looking at this section of the forum again and you'll see that nothing looks the same.

zondaracer

There is something called a scope clause, and almost every major airline has one except for Alaska.

United's scope clause says that the regional partners can fly:
50 seaters, total numbers up to 90% the number of single aisle aircraft in the fleet
70 seaters: up to 255 (combined 70/76 seaters)
76 seaters: up to 153


Since UA will max out the 76 seaters at 153, they can max out the 70 seaters at 102 (153 plus 102 = 255)

Between GoJet, Mesa, and SkyWest, there are 77 CRJ700s being operated for United. Republic operates 38 E170s. Once all the E175 deliveries have been made for Mesa, Republic, and SkyWest (153 combined), 13 CRJ700s will have to leave. There will still be a need for CRJ700s in the near future for certain airports (MMH, ASE, SUN, JAC, EGE, etc).


Also, most major airlines do not like to give all of their regional flying to just one regional partner. This is akin to putting all of your eggs in one basket. Imagine if all United Express flying was done by one regional, lets make up a name and call them United Express. Imagine that the pilots of this airline decide to go on strike. Now, United doesn't have any regional feed. If you spread it out between SkyWest, Mesa, GoJet, Republic, Air Wisconsin, Expressjet, and Commutair, and one of them goes on strike then its not so bad. Also, the different airlines can bid against each other to win the contract. Lowest bidder wins, keeping costs low.