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Old 02-27-2017, 12:04 AM
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I believe it's a 93% pass rate now, down from 98% a few years ago. Many people are getting the go ahead that would've never been previously considered.

Recently the ERJ program switched to an AQP initial syllabus. The first class has faced a high failure rate (4 out of 16 crews finished without extra sims or failures, over half failed the LOE) according to a few instructors and someone actually in the class. Who knows the actual cause but I'm hesitant to blame the pilots. I'm sure this will be eventually corrected, shame for everyone subjected to the experiment.
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Old 02-27-2017, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyinlynn
I had a conversation with a fellow pilot who just started training with Horizon he said he had heard there is a 20% wash out at SkyWest initial training. I think he said for the ERJ anyone hearing about failures in training?
If you can simply pay attention in class and give them 100% of your effort you will get through training. Cut corners, don't study, and go home every weekend (or more) and you'll probably struggle.

Hell a November class on the CRJ had 7 initial SV ground school failures. I think 5 passed the second attempt to keep going. These guys are putting their careers on the line because they read a gouge from their friend and trust it 100%. Then they change the written test and the failures sky rocket....when it's all the same systems!

Not sure what's up with all the recent ERJ failures but I can't imagine the quality of training is drastically different. Skywest wants you to pass. Could have had a bad patch of students honestly.
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Old 02-27-2017, 01:06 AM
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Plus isn't the Q400 one of the hardest type ratings to get? Ironic that a Horizon pilot would say the Skywest training is difficult.
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Old 02-27-2017, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by hawk21
Not even crappy language. Straight up lying during orientation your first day. Only issue if I've had with the company so far so I can't complain. Incredibly misleading unfortunately.
I don't think anyone intentionally lied to you. What would be their motive? Sounds like you were already sitting in a seat in class at new hire training.
More likely is that they misspoke or possibly they misunderstood the wording themselves.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
I don't think anyone intentionally lied to you. What would be their motive? Sounds like you were already sitting in a seat in class at new hire training.
More likely is that they misspoke or possibly they misunderstood the wording themselves.
Don't tell a room full of ~50 pilots/ cadets they'll get 401k match their first year if they won't.

Rant over lol not really a huge deal
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterE
I believe it's a 93% pass rate now, down from 98% a few years ago. Many people are getting the go ahead that would've never been previously considered.

Recently the ERJ program switched to an AQP initial syllabus. The first class has faced a high failure rate (4 out of 16 crews finished without extra sims or failures, over half failed the LOE) according to a few instructors and someone actually in the class. Who knows the actual cause but I'm hesitant to blame the pilots. I'm sure this will be eventually corrected, shame for everyone subjected to the experiment.
What did they end up doing with the class? How disspiriting to the pilots, and the instructors as well.
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:57 AM
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Everyone gets worked up over stuff posted on here. Yes, November had a higher fail rait. Guuess what December was 100% pass.. Funny they say the class fails together or passes together... i heard the November class didn't realy click or get along.. no studying together.??. who knows..??..
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:43 AM
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My buddy was getting pretty excited talking about how bad the 175 program is right now.
I don't remember everything he said but mostly it seemed that the 175 training department is screwing up in about every way possible.

Examples like handing out the wrong forms and releases/clr then making the students redue their 1/2 days work. Something about the computer in the class room always crashing leaving the subject matter disjointed. Also apparently instructors were not always correct even on callouts.

I asked if he let them have it in the class eval, to which he said no because the evals got turned in to the instructor one at a time. Haha
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:50 AM
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Then that is a wasted opportunity for the company to get feedback on their instructors. The one getting the eval, in this case, should never see it first and it should be completely anonymous.
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by hotbreeze
What did they end up doing with the class? How disspiriting to the pilots, and the instructors as well.
I believe a few are still trying to get into an LOE ride. The very next class in line saw some changes and should be hitting a check ride shortly.....
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