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Old 02-17-2017, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
I just want to take this moment to point out that flip69 is not the MSP CRJ CA by the same name on our seniority list.
That is a true statement
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jvw700
We still have an interview. As rare as it may be some guys don't make it past the interview. At Mesa there is NO interview.
If you think you can show up unprepared you will not get the job!
Agreed. Much easier than it used to be, but you still need to have a rough idea what aviation entails
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip69
Agreed. Much easier than it used to be, but you still need to have a rough idea what aviation entails
Used to be hard to get on here. Now... not so much... multiple wash outs and 100 hour ioe tells the story!
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Old 02-17-2017, 03:04 PM
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Hey we are firing up tele-hiring, time to eat crow on those mesa Skype jokes.
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Old 02-17-2017, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jvw700
Used to be hard to get on here. Now... not so much... multiple wash outs and 100 hour ioe tells the story!
SKW wash outs are not caused by poor training, but rather relaxed entry standards. This is a double-edged sword for applicants.

One one hand, an applicant who might not have gotten a chance in the past at least gets to try. A lot of it is up to them.

But some folks are just not going to make it, and now they have a training failure on their record. But they can always go try again at another regional.

The extra IOE in a lot of cases is to make up for older pilots who are rusty on instruments. Nothing wrong with that if the company wishes to spend the money, plenty of them are just fine pilots once they get up to speed. As long as they make the hard call at the end if needed.
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
SKW wash outs are not caused by poor training, but rather relaxed entry standards. This is a double-edged sword for applicants.

One one hand, an applicant who might not have gotten a chance in the past at least gets to try. A lot of it is up to them.

But some folks are just not going to make it, and now they have a training failure on their record. But they can always go try again at another regional.

The extra IOE in a lot of cases is to make up for older pilots who are rusty on instruments. Nothing wrong with that if the company wishes to spend the money, plenty of them are just fine pilots once they get up to speed. As long as they make the hard call at the end if needed.
Yup! And then there's secondary ioe with the line captains...... The new paradigm of weeding people out through training just seems awfully expensive. You're right though, it definitely gives people a shot!
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Hey we are firing up tele-hiring, time to eat crow on those mesa Skype jokes.
Skype interviewing people that can't get to Denver or slc etc such as military based over seas isn't the same thing
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jvw700
Yup! And then there's secondary ioe with the line captains...... The new paradigm of weeding people out through training just seems awfully expensive. You're right though, it definitely gives people a shot!
Theyre covering the flights and still denying people 200% junior man. They don't care how much it costs they care that they still have the power to tell you NO
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip69
Hate to break the news, but SkyWest is pretty much doing the same thing. And don't try say they aren't. They are. Compared to 10 years ago, it's night and day. The training washes out the weak.
I had Skype interviews last December with Mesa, Republic, and Skywest.

Mesa was the most relaxed but the comments that they don't have an interview are BS. Yes, it wasn't very tough, but it seemed to me they were more interested in what sort of person I am and probably figured with an ATP, several types, and jet time, I know how to fly an airplane. My experience with their recruiters and the Capts who interviewed me was very positive; I didn't accept the offer that came a couple of days later because of the low pay.

The Republic interview was a washout becuase the Skype connection was terrible, but they weren't willing to 'hang up' and start again or reschedule: it really was a joke - couldn't hear their questions, etc. The interview itself wasn't any more thorough than Mesa and it was with an HR person and an FO unlike Mesa which (as above) was two Capts, which I thought was more appropriate. I got a TBNT's and wasn't surprised: they probably thought I was deaf as I kept saying, "Say again?"

My Skywest interview was definitely the most intense and longest - about 4 hours with a CRJ check Capt. We had some IT trouble to start, but unlike Republic, the SKW CA was willing to take the time to sort it out. The gouge was pretty much spot on (I still had to draw the diagrams and hold them up to the camera) but, of course, there was a lot of conversation outside of the questions asked that the gouge doesn't cover. I got the CJO the next day. Obviously, a face-to-face interview is better (I'd have preferred that as well), but still, given how thorough the interview was, I don't think it's fair to say - at least in my experience - SKW is hiring anybody who can fog a mirror.
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Old 02-18-2017, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Aurora8
I had Skype interviews last December with Mesa, Republic, and Skywest.

Mesa was the most relaxed but the comments that they don't have an interview are BS. Yes, it wasn't very tough, but it seemed to me they were more interested in what sort of person I am and probably figured with an ATP, several types, and jet time, I know how to fly an airplane. My experience with their recruiters and the Capts who interviewed me was very positive; I didn't accept the offer that came a couple of days later because of the low pay.

The Republic interview was a washout becuase the Skype connection was terrible, but they weren't willing to 'hang up' and start again or reschedule: it really was a joke - couldn't hear their questions, etc. The interview itself wasn't any more thorough than Mesa and it was with an HR person and an FO unlike Mesa which (as above) was two Capts, which I thought was more appropriate. I got a TBNT's and wasn't surprised: they probably thought I was deaf as I kept saying, "Say again?"

My Skywest interview was definitely the most intense and longest - about 4 hours with a CRJ check Capt. We had some IT trouble to start, but unlike Republic, the SKW CA was willing to take the time to sort it out. The gouge was pretty much spot on (I still had to draw the diagrams and hold them up to the camera) but, of course, there was a lot of conversation outside of the questions asked that the gouge doesn't cover. I got the CJO the next day. Obviously, a face-to-face interview is better (I'd have preferred that as well), but still, given how thorough the interview was, I don't think it's fair to say - at least in my experience - SKW is hiring anybody who can fog a mirror.
did they say why they didn't fly you to denver for the interview?
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