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Old 02-06-2017, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
I think our ability to fill classes is based on company reputation and domiciles rather than any real understanding of our compensation beyond the hourly rates posted to APC.

In the face of huge bonuses and flow-through agreements at other places, I'm honestly surprised that we're still filling classes.
Well Mesa and Horizon are still able to hire people. Clearly there is something we all don't know.
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Old 02-06-2017, 01:34 PM
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Taxes

I've had my accountant doing my taxes for years when I worked in another industry. I've been at SKYW now for a few months and wondered if there is anything peculiar to the 121 world with regards to filing? Any 'I wish I would have known I could have done that' tax issues or gotchas to watch out for?

Thanks!
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Old 02-06-2017, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
I have been watching and flying with new and old guys for quite awhile, I haven't had a newhire that had done anything except flight instruct for a couple of years. If you do the math, a flight instructor takes at least a year to create, and during their tenure as an instructor teach students(Duh). If you go to the average GA airport and look for an instructor, good luck finding one with more than a couple of years experience. The industry is destroying the very segment of the industry that it needs to produce the pilots it desperately needs. By the time the industry figures this out, it will be too late.
Not sure I see your point. You state a problem but no solution. Are they supposed to not hire young instructors? Because if they don't someone else will.

Skywest is already investing into this with their 0-hero program with their new company Skypath....associated with TransPac. Not very well known but it started this year with 2 brand new Archers bought by Skywest and when I left it was rumored they were starting with 8 pilots to see how it works out. ATP style training...get your certs and flight time as fast as you can then you work for Skywest. Not sure about details beyond that because the new TransPac owners were still trying to figure it out.

Seemed like a smart idea and trying to mitigate a problem that we have less pilots coming through so they'll be more selective. May as well seal them up at 0 hours.
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Old 02-06-2017, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
I think our ability to fill classes is based on company reputation and domiciles rather than any real understanding of our compensation beyond the hourly rates posted to APC.

In the face of huge bonuses and flow-through agreements at other places, I'm honestly surprised that we're still filling classes.
Outside looking in, from my perspective, this would be accurate. The pay is a substantial deterrent.
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Old 02-06-2017, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bravix
Outside looking in, from my perspective, this would be accurate. The pay is a substantial deterrent.
Well then you not one of the 100 that come here a month... enjoy your perfect regional... oh wait. There isn't one!!!
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Old 02-06-2017, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bravix
Outside looking in, from my perspective, this would be accurate. The pay is a substantial deterrent.
So go to envoy and get that huge first year bonus then if it's all about first year pay for you. Or you could do PSA or Piedmont. Those that come to Skywest generally know what the pay is and do so for other reasons. Good luck!
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Old 02-06-2017, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
Not sure I see your point. You state a problem but no solution. Are they supposed to not hire young instructors? Because if they don't someone else will.

Skywest is already investing into this with their 0-hero program with their new company Skypath....associated with TransPac. Not very well known but it started this year with 2 brand new Archers bought by Skywest and when I left it was rumored they were starting with 8 pilots to see how it works out. ATP style training...get your certs and flight time as fast as you can then you work for Skywest. Not sure about details beyond that because the new TransPac owners were still trying to figure it out.

Seemed like a smart idea and trying to mitigate a problem that we have less pilots coming through so they'll be more selective. May as well seal them up at 0 hours.
My point is they are making popcorn with their seed corn. No flight instructors, no new pilots......
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Old 02-06-2017, 03:01 PM
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I like hearing the desire for higher pay as contract talks begin before we know it. But on that line I'd bet a skyw 2 or 3 year FO/CA W2 is mostly in line with others even with their bonus, but I'm open to being wrong if they post their W2 numbers.

PSA flow looks to be 12 years from now at 8/month. 6 years if HALF the company pilots get hired elsewhere. That perk comes with handcuffs.
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Old 02-06-2017, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
My point is they are making popcorn with their seed corn. No flight instructors, no new pilots......
That's a problem everyone will eventually have. It sounds like you think they should leave instructors to instruct for more years? Like that'll happen...
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Old 02-06-2017, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jvw700
So go to envoy and get that huge first year bonus then if it's all about first year pay for you. Or you could do PSA or Piedmont. Those that come to Skywest generally know what the pay is and do so for other reasons. Good luck!
Right with their 14 hour 4 days. There's a reason they need to pay bonuses to get people to come, people can't see the forest for the trees.
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