Squallrider

I was referring to classes / training slowing down hence why I referenced recruiting events. Attrition is increasing this year as hiring at mainline as well as cargo have increased. We will have the traditional slow down over summer with regards to upgrades however people need to be replaced. Remember a lot of the 175s aren't actually growth such as the Alaska 700s being replaced by 175s.

West coast is traditionally senior, that's not a shock and as someone mentioned now that pairings and schedules are established people are willing to transition and in some cases the senior folks on the CRJ had to transition due to aircraft moving between partners and bases.

Utah

The bonus payouts aren't based off Inc's numbers. It sounds like some might not know that.

Jvw700

How did SkyWest airlines actually do last quarter?

Majerus

I think they made 26 mil.

Blackwing

Yes I did. Type bonus, too. (Which is half of GoJet's, btw.)

Were it not for the increases in first-year pay, however, I'd likely have stayed at Mesa and upgraded last summer with the rest of my classmates.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy here, but our compensation isn't close to industry-leading.

N1234

Our hiring numbers suggest otherwise. The entire package matters and apparently it is considered competitive.

Don't get me wrong - more money is always better. But I would not consider Mesa even if they doubled their pay.

ClickClickBoom

Silly pilots, the standard bait and switch protocol. Trading hourly for some mythical unicorn(profit sharing). been watching this for almost forever, and pilots bite every single time, they think they are smarter than those who went before. I have in almost 2 decades, never seen pay keep pace with cost of living(at a regional), unless you are on first year pay, and that was a two time deal. The sad but true tidbit is once you are on the seniority list, they only care that you show up for your next trip. Sadly this is what will kill the company ultimately. The smart guys will do the shuffle, come to one company, take the training, then jump to the next carrier with the highest sign on bonus, after a couple of exchanges, they will go to a LLC and continue with the same behavior until they are picked up by a Legacy.
"Pilots, keeping training costs high, because management can't see the obvious, 100 years strong"

ClickClickBoom

I have been watching and flying with new and old guys for quite awhile, I haven't had a newhire that had done anything except flight instruct for a couple of years. If you do the math, a flight instructor takes at least a year to create, and during their tenure as an instructor teach students(Duh). If you go to the average GA airport and look for an instructor, good luck finding one with more than a couple of years experience. The industry is destroying the very segment of the industry that it needs to produce the pilots it desperately needs. By the time the industry figures this out, it will be too late.

Blackwing

I think our ability to fill classes is based on company reputation and domiciles rather than any real understanding of our compensation beyond the hourly rates posted to APC.

In the face of huge bonuses and flow-through agreements at other places, I'm honestly surprised that we're still filling classes.

N1234

Maybe, but it works. And that's all matters for management.