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Old 01-17-2017, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
If you want that you are going to have to do more than wish for it.....
Well maybe our SAPA reps can negotiate......oh wait.......never mind
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Well maybe our SAPA reps can negotiate......oh wait.......never mind
Don't knock them down. They go to special training on negotiating, and in reality we have top of the industry overall composition and lifestyle... thats why alpa won't get voted in here.. back on topic...
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Don't knock them down. They go to special training on negotiating, and in reality we have top of the industry overall composition and lifestyle... thats why alpa won't get voted in here.. back on topic...
top of what industry, exactly?
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Don't knock them down. They go to special training on negotiating, and in reality we have top of the industry overall composition and lifestyle... thats why alpa won't get voted in here.. back on topic...
Please put the drink down and step away from the punch bowl. How many of the skywest peeps are getting 60,000 the first year? Starting pay at $38 an hour for a full min guarantee while in training?

Skywest is mid industry average right now. Only the amount of bases is appealing to most.
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Old 01-17-2017, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by No Lies
Please put the drink down and step away from the punch bowl. How many of the skywest peeps are getting 60,000 the first year? Starting pay at $38 an hour for a full min guarantee while in training?

Skywest is mid industry average right now. Only the amount of bases is appealing to most.
Did the training rate go to $36.50 at 76hrs or is it still 65?
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Old 01-17-2017, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by No Lies
Please put the drink down and step away from the punch bowl. How many of the skywest peeps are getting 60,000 the first year? Starting pay at $38 an hour for a full min guarantee while in training?

Skywest is mid industry average right now. Only the amount of bases is appealing to most.
No, he's right. If you look at the long term...

Short term, other regionals are paying more to attract new hires. This is fine for the un-informed, or those willing to take a calculated risk that they'll upgrade fast and not get stuck there.

But SKW is still attracting new hires, and they're either coming for the bases, or they're older folks who have been around the block a few times and either plan on staying, or want to be comfortable if they get stuck.
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Old 01-17-2017, 08:04 AM
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^^^ this

it is all about supply and demand. People vote with their feet. And as long as new hires come here it is obviously attractive by their metrics - salary being only one of many.
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Old 01-17-2017, 08:12 AM
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No, he's right. If you look at the long term...

Short term, other regionals are paying more to attract new hires. This is fine for the un-informed, or those willing to take a calculated risk that they'll upgrade fast and not get stuck there.

But SKW is still attracting new hires, and they're either coming for the bases, or they're older folks who have been around the block a few times and either plan on staying, or want to be comfortable if they get stuck.
Absolutely right, but for the average 24 year old newhire, it's gonna cost. Every year not spent at the majors will cost you hundreds of thousands, if not millions at the end of your career. This job is a seniority based endeavor, screw around at the start and it just might mean retiring on the narrowbody instead of the widebody fleets. Screw it up bad enough snowboarding and surfing and it could be the proverbial million dollar mistake. Stay hungry and escape the regional prison system as soon as you can get parole.
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Old 01-17-2017, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Absolutely right, but for the average 24 year old newhire, it's gonna cost. Every year not spent at the majors will cost you hundreds of thousands, if not millions at the end of your career. This job is a seniority based endeavor, screw around at the start and it just might mean retiring on the narrowbody instead of the widebody fleets. Screw it up bad enough snowboarding and surfing and it could be the proverbial million dollar mistake. Stay hungry and escape the regional prison system as soon as you can get parole.
So between new hires and lifers there is absolutely no critical mass to fight for improvements.
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Old 01-17-2017, 09:03 AM
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Absolutely right, but for the average 24 year old newhire, it's gonna cost. Every year not spent at the majors will cost you hundreds of thousands, if not millions at the end of your career. This job is a seniority based endeavor, screw around at the start and it just might mean retiring on the narrowbody instead of the widebody fleets. Screw it up bad enough snowboarding and surfing and it could be the proverbial million dollar mistake. Stay hungry and escape the regional prison system as soon as you can get parole.
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