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Old 01-16-2017, 02:07 PM
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There are way too many senior captains who think whatever
What 250-300 out of 4000+ seniority list? The juniors put that vote over the top and everybody knows it.
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Old 01-16-2017, 02:15 PM
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The majority voted down the 1% raise .
Then the majority voted in a 1.5% raise with 401k concession taken out.
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Old 01-16-2017, 02:52 PM
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And they added 401k improvements..
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Old 01-16-2017, 03:08 PM
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And they added 401k improvements..
The retirement here was a joke before and it is a joke now.
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Old 01-16-2017, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Is offline
The retirement here was a joke before and it is a joke now.
Retirement? A 401k is not a retirement unless the company contribution is something well north of 15% (which would of course exceed the limit).

A 401k is the government and corporate america's way to enable you to delude yourself that you'll be OK without your grandfather's defined-benefit pension.

With that said, and while 90% of my retirement planning falls in other realms, you might as well contribute enough to get the match. It's a tax-reduced 7% raise over the long run.
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Old 01-16-2017, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
Not even close. There are way too many senior captains who think whatever the first offer is the best we can get. Same song, 400th verse. Please sir, may I have another 1% raise?
That's because they already have theirs. They mostly live in high QOL, low COL towns and pull down $130K+ without even trying (to say nothing of the training bubbas).

Most are not willing to rock the boat hard to try to push their pay into the mainline realm. Particularly since they remember how that worked out for COMAIR.

Actually hard to blame them.
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Old 01-16-2017, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AUpilot77
What kind of rate? my class date is Feb 13 so I don't have a base yet but hearing I could get SLC out of training I'd be at least somewhat interested.
PM for details if interested. I have some options, to include a car.
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by trip
What 250-300 out of 4000+ seniority list? The juniors put that vote over the top and everybody knows it.
The top 1000 pilots here have 12 years minimum. What do you consider junior? The majority of the yes-voters I talked to were guys with 10+ years.
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:43 PM
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Rumor of SKYW getting 175s to fly for american?
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jukem88
It's a Rumor that SKYW is getting 175s to fly for American.
Fixed it for you!
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