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01-16-2017, 07:03 AM
#5301
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 896
You don't want ALPA. You just feed money into mainline's war chest.
01-16-2017, 07:16 AM
#5302
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,252
At thr end of the day if alpa got voted in the company would drag out the contract process.. We would be stalled for atleast 5-6 years given past history with regionals.. Plus in the end right now, we have the same of better conditions as others.. Plus we cant even get 49% of our pilots to even vote on anything!!!
01-16-2017, 08:05 AM
#5303
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 472
Aren't these multiple different discussions though?
I am not saying that I am approving or dis-approving RJ in any way. But participation was relatively high at 49% - higher than any other SAPA election I can recall (and comparable to 55.4% in the most recent election for US President).
RJ got 62% of the votes.... to me that is more of a landslide victory that other people have claim for presidential elections recently.
I thought the other candidates had very valid points but this was a clear endorsement for RJ.
Again, that doesn't mean things are perfect at all. And we should keep pushing for improvement but I don't think it can be dismissed as a completely anemic pilot group.
I am not saying that I am approving or dis-approving RJ in any way. But participation was relatively high at 49% - higher than any other SAPA election I can recall (and comparable to 55.4% in the most recent election for US President).
RJ got 62% of the votes.... to me that is more of a landslide victory that other people have claim for presidential elections recently.
I thought the other candidates had very valid points but this was a clear endorsement for RJ.
Again, that doesn't mean things are perfect at all. And we should keep pushing for improvement but I don't think it can be dismissed as a completely anemic pilot group.
01-16-2017, 08:56 AM
#5304
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,407
They don't want to create a situation where there might be a common carrier petition or SLI because...
1) XJT + ASA + part of the SKW pilot group would probably vote in ALPA.
2) SGU does feel an obligation not to let XJT pilots integrate into SKW with a seniority above any SKW pilot. The only way to do that is by not integrating at all.
01-16-2017, 09:34 AM
#5306
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,559
Black leather, preferably goatskin, right? Is there something different about a SKW leather jacket?
01-16-2017, 09:43 AM
#5307
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,407
There are actually two styles used at SKW, Gibson & Barnes from ten+ years ago and the current Perrone. As far as I know both are still authorized (I still use G&B), so if you can find a used G&B that should work too. I actually like the Perrone better but not enough to buy one since my G&B still works fine.
01-16-2017, 10:26 AM
#5308
Dumb Pilot
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Position: Broke
Posts: 784
Aren't these multiple different discussions though?
I am not saying that I am approving or dis-approving RJ in any way. But participation was relatively high at 49% - higher than any other SAPA election I can recall (and comparable to 55.4% in the most recent election for US President).
RJ got 62% of the votes.... to me that is more of a landslide victory that other people have claim for presidential elections recently.
I thought the other candidates had very valid points but this was a clear endorsement for RJ.
Again, that doesn't mean things are perfect at all. And we should keep pushing for improvement but I don't think it can be dismissed as a completely anemic pilot group.
I am not saying that I am approving or dis-approving RJ in any way. But participation was relatively high at 49% - higher than any other SAPA election I can recall (and comparable to 55.4% in the most recent election for US President).
RJ got 62% of the votes.... to me that is more of a landslide victory that other people have claim for presidential elections recently.
I thought the other candidates had very valid points but this was a clear endorsement for RJ.
Again, that doesn't mean things are perfect at all. And we should keep pushing for improvement but I don't think it can be dismissed as a completely anemic pilot group.
01-16-2017, 01:02 PM
#5309
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 472
They may have voted in 10% increase and it still wouldn't have satisfied someones best interest.
I agree that we probably had way more leverage than we thought and probably left money on the table. But apparently a large enough number of folks was happy with what was offered.
Hopefully, this will be a lesson for the next go-around.
01-16-2017, 01:36 PM
#5310
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,699
What is best interest? Or what is acceptable to you/most?
They may have voted in 10% increase and it still wouldn't have satisfied someones best interest.
I agree that we probably had way more leverage than we thought and probably left money on the table. But apparently a large enough number of folks was happy with what was offered.
Hopefully, this will be a lesson for the next go-around.
They may have voted in 10% increase and it still wouldn't have satisfied someones best interest.
I agree that we probably had way more leverage than we thought and probably left money on the table. But apparently a large enough number of folks was happy with what was offered.
Hopefully, this will be a lesson for the next go-around.
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