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Old 01-15-2017, 07:47 PM
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Is there any interest in SLC crashpads here? I have one with availability.
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by trip
I think most of the pilots have no faith or interest in SAPA. By participating they feel like they're condoning and supporting the fake union as a representative, not participating in anything SAPA is their way of protesting. I don't know what the answer or solution is.
Bingo. SAPA is nothing more than a company tool used to prevent the pilots from forming an actual union.

SAPA's benefit to the pilot group is minimal compared to it's huge benefit to management. Period.

Voting is simply choosing which mouthpiece speaks on management's behalf.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:07 PM
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Any info on ORD crashpads?
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:16 PM
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What is Skywest Doing with XJET. Bleeding them dry to get rid of the union?
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00
What is Skywest Doing with XJET. Bleeding them dry to get rid of the union?
Nobody knows know for sure, but it sure looks like that's the plan. Let attrition run its course. The writing is on the wall.
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by webecheck
Is there any interest in SLC crashpads here? I have one with availability.
What kind of rate? my class date is Feb 13 so I don't have a base yet but hearing I could get SLC out of training I'd be at least somewhat interested.
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Old 01-16-2017, 05:42 AM
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Are there any other airlines that use Skywest's leather jacket? or is there anywhere pilots leaving sell their Uniform clothing? Thanks
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Old 01-16-2017, 05:46 AM
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Are there any other airlines that use Skywest's leather jacket? or is there anywhere pilots leaving sell their Uniform clothing? Thanks
What size do you need?
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
Are there any other airlines that use Skywest's leather jacket? or is there anywhere pilots leaving sell their Uniform clothing? Thanks
Spirit, Southwest, Expressjet, Jetblue, Hawaiian, Envoy, Commutair, Allegiant, Air Wisconsin, Alaska, and a handful of cargo companies use the same leather jacket. If you can't find one on here, then search on the internet for Perrone Leather jacket.
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Out of touch with the pilot group (hasn't flown the line and likes to make handshake deals with management), doesn't participate in any "discussions" outside conference calls or 1 on 1 phone calls. I once had to call him for help and he was so condescending and rude that I never bothered looking for help from him again.

I had to call SAPA a few times when I was new and got zero help. One rep was actually cool and went through the PPM with me to find an answer, but in the end I still got what was basically a :shrug: reply with no actual help.

I was given RJ's number and told to call him to ask my question because "he's the guy with the answers". He gave me 2 minutes of his time and told me he didn't know the answer, was aware of the problem and to just call management because they could help me more, which was BS.

After hanging up I looked up more rep numbers and was shocked to find out, the guy I just called was the damn president! (Like I said, I was still very new to the company). I couldn't believe the guy at the top told me the solution to my problem was to contact management and ask for help.

I have no interest in seeing ALPA at a place like SKYW because I don't personally think they could help us, but I do want to see a real, legal union. If SAPA could turn into a real in house union, one that doesn't answer to management, I'd gladly sign over a percentage of my paycheck over for real representation.
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