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Old 12-30-2016, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LAX2MSP
Just heard a rumor that EDV is scaling back 900 flying out of MSP to build up their east coast ops. Yet it is being replaced by GoJet, any insight? What happened to MSP being the junior base behind DTW? Are we losing lines in MSP and is movement coming to a stop?
Most of the shift from MSP/DTW to NYC has already happened. I don't know about MSP but GoJet and to a lesser extent ExpressJet (out of domicile) replaced a good deal of our 900 flying in DTW. I think in both MSP/DTW the lines of flying we had dropped 30-40%.
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Old 12-31-2016, 07:40 AM
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Thought I'd put this here as a new FO & sort of new to jumpseating. Wow, Southwest is absolutely great when it comes to getting home. They are very curious, professional, and willing to help. I'm impressed !

Also, my sim partner was just picked up by Southwest recently. Anyone else know what the attrition to Southwest is?
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Old 12-31-2016, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptSwift
Thought I'd put this here as a new FO & sort of new to jumpseating. Wow, Southwest is absolutely great when it comes to getting home. They are very curious, professional, and willing to help. I'm impressed !

Also, my sim partner was just picked up by Southwest recently. Anyone else know what the attrition to Southwest is?
Few people here and there and a few from southwest have moved on from there. It's a good company but hear long reserve and unlikely upgrade with their relatively young pilot group. May be a good option tho since they aren't dependent on overseas flying (NAI issue etc). Need 1000 tpic tho.
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Old 12-31-2016, 11:17 AM
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Is long reserve at home that bad when it's 15/16 days off and 100-120k second year?
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Old 12-31-2016, 11:24 AM
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Is long reserve at home that bad when it's 15/16 days off and 100-120k second year?
Personally I don't think so but that's not much more than what people make as captains at Skywest.
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Old 12-31-2016, 11:30 AM
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Sure, but not with 15-16 off a month. And that's reserve, at minimum pay swa. I'll tell ya, a reserve at skw at 3-4th year pay is maybe around 70k with 12-13 a month. Unless you're a cka and you're OK flying your ass off, the illusion that you make more at skw is just that, an illusion. If you wanna hustle, you can make 200k at swa as an fo. Show me a skw captain making that.
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Old 12-31-2016, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Sure, but not with 15-16 off a month. And that's reserve, at minimum pay swa. I'll tell ya, a reserve at skw at 3-4th year pay is maybe around 70k with 12-13 a month. Unless you're a cka and you're OK flying your ass off, the illusion that you make more at skw is just that, an illusion. If you wanna hustle, you can make 200k at swa as an fo. Show me a skw captain making that.
Sim instructors.... and some check airman...
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Old 12-31-2016, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Sure, but not with 15-16 off a month. And that's reserve, at minimum pay swa. I'll tell ya, a reserve at skw at 3-4th year pay is maybe around 70k with 12-13 a month. Unless you're a cka and you're OK flying your ass off, the illusion that you make more at skw is just that, an illusion. If you wanna hustle, you can make 200k at swa as an fo. Show me a skw captain making that.
Southwest is a dump. The good ole days there have come to an end. I wouldn't go there if I were a CA at SkyWest. Their retirement is a lot better, and 150K as a FO is easily attained. But that's just it, you're a FO, and will be for 15-20 years. Same equipment, same regional routes we fly, etc. No thanks.

Now on the other hand, leaving for United, Delta, or FedEx (if that's your cup of tea) is a no brainer.
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Old 12-31-2016, 12:40 PM
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Who cares whether CA is attainable or not, it's still better than being a lifer at any regional.
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Old 12-31-2016, 12:56 PM
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Their 401k, profit sharing, and work rules really add to the total compensation. I'm at AA and SW's contract is a lot better than ours.
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