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Old 12-19-2016, 02:18 PM
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If it wasn't for the huge badge and the fact it looks like a sombrero I might wear it...... maybe
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Old 12-19-2016, 03:01 PM
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Ok fashionistas, do we have to buy shirts/pants/jackets at the sources listed in the welcome package? Or can we find *very* similar looking stuff and get that tailored?

Does anyone makes a fuss if your pants are wool instead of poly, or you find a leather jacket that is close but not exactly the same color/sheen as Perrone's?
(as in: can we get written up?)

I just like my clothes to look like they were made for me, not some hand-me-downs. Don't really care about the garment-based pecking order of who's cool. Thanks!
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MajHam
Ok fashionistas, do we have to buy shirts/pants/jackets at the sources listed in the welcome package? Or can we find *very* similar looking stuff and get that tailored?

Does anyone makes a fuss if your pants are wool instead of poly, or you find a leather jacket that is close but not exactly the same color/sheen as Perrone's?
(as in: can we get written up?)

I just like my clothes to look like they were made for me, not some hand-me-downs. Don't really care about the garment-based pecking order of who's cool. Thanks!
As long as the pilot shirt is white and the pants are black, you are fine.
Lots of guys buy stuff at ACutAbove. The founder was a former Skywest pilot.
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
As long as the pilot shirt is white and the pants are black, you are fine.
Lots of guys buy stuff at ACutAbove. The founder was a former Skywest pilot.
Pants from Walmart (16.99 vs. 69.99)
Shirts from Marv Golden (VanHeusen a few bucks less)
Even the sweaters can be found for 30%+ less elsewhere.

Black is black and pilot shirts are pilot shirts.

Just don't grab any Dockers (anything cotton). When you wash them once, they fade, they're gray and you look incredibly dopey.
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:50 PM
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If you get hired, can you choose to wait for a 175 class?
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:57 PM
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I'm guessing the guys senior to you weren't so fortunate.
Well that'd be the top 17% of guys, so not sure what you mean...
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Old 12-19-2016, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MajHam
Ok fashionistas, do we have to buy shirts/pants/jackets at the sources listed in the welcome package? Or can we find *very* similar looking stuff and get that tailored?

Does anyone makes a fuss if your pants are wool instead of poly, or you find a leather jacket that is close but not exactly the same color/sheen as Perrone's?
(as in: can we get written up?)

I just like my clothes to look like they were made for me, not some hand-me-downs. Don't really care about the garment-based pecking order of who's cool. Thanks!
Nobody cares. I have never heard of anyone getting 'written up' although I suppose if the LAX/FAT CP (MH) showed up, I could imagine him losing his marbles over some trivial uniform 'discrepancy.'

I use A Cut Above for my shirts. I actually do use Crew Outfitters for the trousers since they are comfortable for me, and cut well. However, the shirts from CO and M&H are a joke...A Cut Above is vastly superior.

I do second the comment about not using Dockers for trousers. I keep one as an emergency pair but I just think they look kind of unprofessional because black Dockers fade after a couple washes.

And for heaven's sake make sure you get decent shoes...not black sneakers like I've seen some guys rocking. Shoes are super important, not just for looks but really for dealing with the toxic stew on winter airport ramps...a horrendous blend of Jet-A, Skydrol, Type I/III/IV, lav blue juice, and God knows what else. I have Blundstone low-rise boots that are absolutely fantastic for all weather conditions. Regular loafers would have been ruined in a few weeks of ORD winter turns.

For the leather jacket, I have to say, the Perrone is pretty amazing. It's suuuupper warm. Even with just a short-sleeved shirt underneath, as long as you have a black scarf and your Perrone, you can preflight in -20C weather and you'll be fine. It's expensive but worth it, IMHO.

Nobody will write you up for anything. My CA flew last night's trip with no tie, no nametag, and no wings. Admittedly that's an extreme case but it's not like anyone noticed. I mean, I have a red umbrella instead of the black one we're supposed to have...after being nearly run down twice by go-karting rampers on dark nights with my black umbrella, I've found that the red one is far more visible.
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Old 12-19-2016, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Nobody cares. I have never heard of anyone getting 'written up' although I suppose if the LAX/FAT CP (MH) showed up, I could imagine him losing his marbles over some trivial uniform 'discrepancy.'

I use A Cut Above for my shirts. I actually do use Crew Outfitters for the trousers since they are comfortable for me, and cut well. However, the shirts from CO and M&H are a joke...A Cut Above is vastly superior.

I do second the comment about not using Dockers for trousers. I keep one as an emergency pair but I just think they look kind of unprofessional because black Dockers fade after a couple washes.

And for heaven's sake make sure you get decent shoes...not black sneakers like I've seen some guys rocking. Shoes are super important, not just for looks but really for dealing with the toxic stew on winter airport ramps...a horrendous blend of Jet-A, Skydrol, Type I/III/IV, lav blue juice, and God knows what else. I have Blundstone low-rise boots that are absolutely fantastic for all weather conditions. Regular loafers would have been ruined in a few weeks of ORD winter turns.

For the leather jacket, I have to say, the Perrone is pretty amazing. It's suuuupper warm. Even with just a short-sleeved shirt underneath, as long as you have a black scarf and your Perrone, you can preflight in -20C weather and you'll be fine. It's expensive but worth it, IMHO.

Nobody will write you up for anything. My CA flew last night's trip with no tie, no nametag, and no wings. Admittedly that's an extreme case but it's not like anyone noticed. I mean, I have a red umbrella instead of the black one we're supposed to have...after being nearly run down twice by go-karting rampers on dark nights with my black umbrella, I've found that the red one is far more visible.
Recently it has come up that the leather jacket has to come from an approved vendor. Perrone isn't one of those soooooo. Technically it isn't approved.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:19 PM
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Mesa has done just as well as we have on performance so until people stop attending class at the worst airline in the world the shrinkage will continue.

Worst airline in the world? And you're an authority on the subject how, exactly?
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:27 PM
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Worst airline in the world? And you're an authority on the subject how, exactly?
Worst insurance in the industry, half pay, 50% deadhead pay, no cancellation pay, is that exactly enough? Or you need more?
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