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Old 11-16-2016, 04:39 PM
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So what's the current CRJ reserve times/junior bases/holding a line?

I've got an offer for Skywest and PSA and trying to make the final decision. What makes OO so great they don't need bonuses? Wanting to hear what ya'll say vs what the recruiters told me. i don't happen to know anyone there so any info will be great.

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Old 11-16-2016, 06:09 PM
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If choice of base isn't a problem for you, I say go with PSA man. Upgrade is roughly the same, and QOL are about equal. You'll make way more money at PSA, plus you have the flow as a backup.
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Old 11-16-2016, 06:09 PM
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I also have an 2 offers. One from Skywest and one from Envoy. Any advice? The double occupancy in training for Skywest kinda sucks.
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Old 11-16-2016, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacknight575
I also have an 2 offers. One from Skywest and one from Envoy. Any advice? The double occupancy in training for Skywest kinda sucks.
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Old 11-16-2016, 06:28 PM
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Well if you live in Chicago, yes, you're probably better off going to Envoy long-term...you'll get higher pay and the flow. I think CRJ upgrade times are currently shorter at SkyWest, but that will change fairly rapidly at Envoy given that they're getting enough pilots now. If you live at a place where you can be in base at either of the two, I would look at that first since in my humble opinion I don't like to commute and QOL trumps money and upgrade time.
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Old 11-17-2016, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah
You can't just compare hourly rates. Take a look at the work rules. Minimum daily guarantee, duty guarantee, premium pay, trip rig, holiday pay, etc.. If you don't know what those are and how the other airlines stack up do some research. How does the airline handle block or better. Leg by leg, or some sort of daily guarantee?

Most SkyWest pilots credit significantly more hours than they block every month.

As far as bonus payments. Beyond any sort of new hire payout, there are six a year here. It's an additional several thousand to over $10K a year.
Do I understand this correctly: Skywest pays bonuses - and these are worth up to $10K/year?
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Old 11-17-2016, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
Are people really making career choices based on what people tell them on this place? Lord help you if that is the case....
Well that was disingenuous at best.

I cant speak for others but having been to five interviews in a week's time with a couple of them at a job fair where I didn't get the whole company presentation spiel it helps to get reminders of who offers what, what is available and how much BS did the recruiter actually shovel at me

Lord help you for having such limited intelligence that you couldn't fathom why someone would come on here and ask questions

please do use a favor and go back to trolling hillary voters on your facebook feed
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Blacknight575
I also have an 2 offers. One from Skywest and one from Envoy. Any advice? The double occupancy in training for Skywest kinda sucks.
A guy in my class made the move to SkyWest from Envoy after having been there for several years. Some time has passed and he's still happy with his choice.
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Old 11-17-2016, 06:50 AM
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Yes, maybe Envoy from one year ago and before that, today they are turning around and AA is investing in them. I think we will have a hard time competing with Envoy in Chicago.... Lots of friends that I know have gone over there than us recently. Hell, I've thought of it too being low on the seniority list at ORD and still on first year pay.... I'm looking into if it's worth it or not.

If it weren't for us having so many western bases and drawing in applicants from there to staff DTW and ORD, we would be in a world of hurt right now.
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Old 11-17-2016, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Duesenflieger
Yes, maybe Envoy from one year ago and before that, today they are turning around and AA is investing in them. I think we will have a hard time competing with Envoy in Chicago.... Lots of friends that I know have gone over there than us recently. Hell, I've thought of it too being low on the seniority list at ORD and still on first year pay.... I'm looking into if it's worth it or not.

If it weren't for us having so many western bases and drawing in applicants from there to staff DTW and ORD, we would be in a world of hurt right now.
There isn't much of a line to transfer out west - people are able to hold pretty much any base in a matter of a few months. Lots of people are coming here to be ORD based.
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